<html><head></head><body>I think the casting machine security, with paper printed ballot, is no longer a security issue. That has moved to the scanner side. <br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On December 8, 2020 1:06:57 PM EST, H P Ladds via Ale <ale@ale.org> wrote:<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); padding-left: 1ex;">
<div dir="ltr"><div>What is the debate at hand, that we should advocate for OS code running voting machines?</div><div><br></div><div>Count me as a "meh." Sure, I'm all for having the code open for inspection. But, is the security of an election truly related to the transparency or security of voting machines' software?</div><div><br></div><div> Isn't any malfeasance in the software incredibly easy to detect? Run 5,000 known ballots through a vote counting machine. If it counts them correctly, what is the issue? In this test, the machine's hardware, not its software, would deservedly get the credit for the accuracy of the count. <br></div><div><br></div><div>It would be difficult to execute a Chyster/Fiat emissions testing type fraud, given the ease with which it can be detected/prevented. The evidence doesn't disappear into the atmosphere; there is a paper trail. (Please, Mr. Secretary, tell me that the machines are tested for accuracy before, during and after the counts! And that the machines don't go into a special "testing mode.")<br></div><div><br></div><div>A vote casting machine that maliciously changes votes and literally prints out proof of the change is destined to meet with considerable disapproval. If the machine prints out correctly marked ballots, no one is particularly impressed by the software or reassured that they could review the code.</div></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Mon, Dec 7, 2020 at 11:16 PM Bruno Bronosky via Ale <<a href="mailto:ale@ale.org" target="_blank">ale@ale.org</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div>I know this used to be a big issue with this group. I'm surprised there's no talk of it now.
</div>-- <br><div dir="ltr">.!# BrunoBronosky #!.</div>
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