<html><head></head><body>Some state is doing ranked viting for primaries this year. Or it's a Skandanavian country. Can't recall. <br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On August 27, 2020 5:55:08 PM EDT, Brian Stanaland <brian@stanaland.org> wrote:<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); padding-left: 1ex;">
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Or must win with 50% plus 1 vote of eligible voters. Not just those that show up."</div><div><br></div><div>I mentioned this is a discussion and people acted like I was crazy. But it would be great. Not only would politicians have to campaign on "why I'm the best" but also "why I'm better than leaving the position empty."</div><div><br></div><div>The more I learn about ranked voting the more I like it.<br></div><div><br></div><div>-- Brian<br></div></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Thu, Aug 27, 2020 at 4:08 PM Jim Kinney via Ale <<a href="mailto:ale@ale.org">ale@ale.org</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div>Or must win with 50% plus 1 vote of eligible voters. Not just those that show up.<br><br>There's several rank choices variations that poly-sci people like but politicians don't. So that must mean we need it!!<br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On August 27, 2020 2:03:01 PM EDT, Sean Kilpatrick via Ale <<a href="mailto:ale@ale.org" target="_blank">ale@ale.org</a>> wrote:<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">
<div dir="ltr"><div>What is needed for our elections is a NONE OF THE ABOVE choice. If NONE gets the most votes, then a new election must be run and NONE of the original group can try again.</div><div><br></div><div>Sean<br></div></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Thu, Aug 27, 2020 at 1:00 PM Edward O. Holcroft via Ale <<a href="mailto:ale@ale.org" target="_blank">ale@ale.org</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr"><div class="gmail_default" style="font-size:small">Everyone knows that revealing the source code is a huge security risk 'cos the bad guys get to see it too. /s</div><div><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div><div dir="ltr"><div><div dir="ltr"><div><div dir="ltr"><div><div dir="ltr"><div><div dir="ltr"><div><br></div><div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-size:small">The thing I miss most about paper ballots is that you no longer get to spoil your vote in protest, if you so choose. Indeed, younger people don't even seem to know what a "spoilt paper" is. E-voting should at least provide an option to "spoil paper" for those of us wishing to register our dissatisfaction with all the candidates, or the process, or whatever.</div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-size:small"><br></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-size:small">ed</div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Thu, Aug 27, 2020 at 12:24 PM DJ-Pfulio via Ale <<a href="mailto:ale@ale.org" target="_blank">ale@ale.org</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">On 8/27/20 7:11 AM, Jerald Sheets wrote:<br>
> Why don’t voting machine companies think outside the box?<br>
<br>
Not enough money in it.<br>
No annual maintenance contract.<br>
<br>
If all the states got together and each put $50K into a F/LOSS<br>
project for voting software, Americans would save money and be <br>
able to trust the results much more.<br>
<br>
Brazil did this.<br>
<br>
But really, we should all just switch to voting by mail, with paper,<br>
and drop off boxes for the 1-2 weeks prior to the deadline.<br>
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IMHO.<br>
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