<div dir="auto">Your earlier suggestions helped me get there, Bob! Much thanks! I'll post an update after the restore is done.</div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Mon, Aug 24, 2020, 6:03 PM Bob via Ale <<a href="mailto:ale@ale.org">ale@ale.org</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><br>
Hi Jim,<br>
<br>
Never mind what's below; I see that you're way ahead of me. <br>
Congratulations!<br>
<br>
--Bob<br>
<br>
<br>
On 2020-08-24 5:59 p.m., Bob via Ale wrote:<br>
> <br>
> <br>
> Hi Jim,<br>
> <br>
> I'm not seeing why you are thinking that the password must be on the <br>
> backup drive somewhere. There could be a standard phrase in a <br>
> particular location on the backup drive like "The quick brown fox jumped <br>
> over the lazy dog" except that the phrase is encrypted. You enter the <br>
> key=password, and Deja Dup uses that password to decrypt the encrypted <br>
> version of the standard phrase. If the decrypted phrase does turn out <br>
> to be "The quick brown fox ...," then the password you entered is <br>
> assumed to be correct. (This is pure speculation---I do not know how <br>
> Deja Dup actually works.)<br>
> <br>
> I'm still leaning towards the most likely explanation is that you are <br>
> not correctly remembering your password. If there were a failure to <br>
> store the password, that seems like it might be equivalent to not <br>
> checking the box asking it to remember the password. However, you're <br>
> entering the password, which seems like it has nothing to do with <br>
> whether Deja Dup saved the password in the gnome keyring.<br>
> <br>
> Here's an experiment, and I take no responsibility if it goes horribly <br>
> wrong. :-) Since you've installed Deja Dup on the older, spare laptop. <br>
> Plug in the external backup drive to the older, spare laptop and <br>
> attempt to restore a few files. Do not backup anything to the external <br>
> hard drive. However, see if you can restore a few files from the <br>
> external hard drive with what you think is the password.<br>
> <br>
> If you were to try the above, I think I'd re-install the os and Deja Dup <br>
> on the laptop. Don't ask Deja Dup to remember any password. Don't save <br>
> anything to the backup drive. Just plug in the external backup drive <br>
> and see if you can restore a file or two with what you think is the <br>
> password from the external hard drive to your old laptop.<br>
> <br>
> Before trying the above, you might want to wait and see if some of the <br>
> other say, "UNDER NO CIRCUMSTANCES SHOULD YOU DO WHAT HE SUGGESTED." :-)<br>
> <br>
> --Bob<br>
> <br>
> On 2020-08-24 4:19 p.m., Jim Ransone wrote:<br>
>> Much thanks to everyone for the suggestions and advice so far! Here is an<br>
>> update:<br>
>><br>
>> I have attempted to duplicate the entire scenario on an older spare <br>
>> laptop.<br>
>><br>
>> - I installed the same OS - Ubuntu Studio 20.04.<br>
>> - I created a folder and filled it with a handful of files.<br>
>> - I used Deja Dup to back up the folder onto a usb flash drive. (Didn't<br>
>> want to risk doing something weird to my actual backup drive.) Was <br>
>> asked to<br>
>> create a password.<br>
>> - Reinstalled Ubuntu Studio 20.04 with the same settings as before <br>
>> (erasing<br>
>> everything.)<br>
>> - Reinstalled Deja Dup.<br>
>> - Used Deja Dup with the password to successfully restore the backup.<br>
>><br>
>> This indicates to me that you are right, Bob. The password was the<br>
>> password. There is no other key that's being created and stored <br>
>> somewhere.<br>
>> It also would seem to indicate that the password is somewhere on the <br>
>> backup<br>
>> drive, but I don't have any idea where on the drive that would be.<br>
>><br>
>> So either I am misremembering the original password, as you suggested, <br>
>> Bob,<br>
>> or there is some other issue. I have seen comments online about a bug <br>
>> that<br>
>> cause it to sometimes fail to store the key.<br>
>><br>
>> Jim<br>
> <snip><br>
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