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<body dir="ltr">There's ways to tweak oomkiller to not hit your watchdog. That way you can let kernel "do it's thing" until the watchdog says the pull the plug. If you have at least 2 cores, you can use cpu-affinity to bind a list of processes, including the watchdog, to core0 plus X RAM placing basic os outside of oomkiller space. <br><br>Robert Tweedy did a specific tweak to put glusterfs outside of oomkiller land on the Emory cluster. Since glusterfs runs in userspace (fuse) and all non-booting storage was mounting over glusterfs oomkilling gluster would hang the box.<br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On August 22, 2020 1:09:35 PM EDT, Chris Fowler <cfowler@outpostsentinel.com> wrote:<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); padding-left: 1ex;">
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setting overcommit_memory to 0 solved the issue of OOM panic. After the first failure of malloc() the system rebooted.</div>
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<pre>0 - Heuristic overcommit handling. Obvious overcommits of
address space are refused. Used for a typical system. It
ensures a seriously wild allocation fails while allowing
overcommit to reduce swap usage. root is allowed to
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Now I just need to decide if I am going to use OOM's panic and reboot or watchdog's. With watchdog I have a repair script that runs and keeps count allowing the system 2m to recover from ENOMEM. OOM panic will reboot on the first ENOMEM. The issue of not
using all available ram can be addressed via overcommit_ratio. To use watchdog, I could keep overcommit_memory at 2 and set the ratio to 80%. The remaining 20% is reserved for kernel memory usage.</div>
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The sitting of 2 and the ration of 5o also explains why I was able to malloc() more when I had enabled 500M of swap. It is 50% of (RAM+SWAP).</div>
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Is tmpfs kernel space? I need to verify that because this system does not mount a drive as / It uses unionfs where the software is in a ro image and the n any thing written in / ends up on a tmpfs. Exactly like an Ubuntu livecd.<br>
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I could also disable OOM panic, set overcommit_memory to 0 and use watchdog. If watchdog is killed for whatever reason the system will reboot since it is using /dev/watchdog.
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<div id="divRplyFwdMsg" dir="ltr"><font face="Calibri, sans-serif" style="font-size:11pt" color="#000000"><b>From:</b> Jim Kinney <jim.kinney@gmail.com><br>
<b>Sent:</b> Saturday, August 22, 2020 10:56 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> Chris Fowler <cfowler@outpostsentinel.com>; Atlanta Linux Enthusiasts <ale@ale.org><br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [ale] Free is not showing me correct used memory</font>
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<div dir="ltr">When did memory over commit become safely possible? I don't have to dig often into details of memory management but sometime in kernel 2 days a major change occured. Memory was marked allocated when requested regardless of use. But a different
request process was used to report use. The overcommit allowed unused but allocated memory to be used by another process. The change merged those two or clarified or something. Been a long time. I also vaguely recall there might have been a race condition
in the first few iterations of the change. Something to do with a thread problem and the over commit not playing well together.<br>
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When I copied that program from the web page I noticed something odd, but did not question it.
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The size argument is the last one! It should've been. As many times that I've used memset() I should have corrected it the first time. Just me being an idiot and not second guessing someone else's program.<br>
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<span style="font-family:"Courier New",monospace">[root@basement]# free</span>
<div><span style="font-family:"Courier New",monospace"> total used free shared buffers cached</span></div>
<div><span style="font-family:"Courier New",monospace">Mem: 1964784 1225620 739164 0 5108 24632</span></div>
<div><span style="font-family:"Courier New",monospace">-/+ buffers/cache: 1195880 768904</span></div>
<div><span style="font-family:"Courier New",monospace">Swap: 524284 0 524284</span></div>
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Now I'd like to ask the stupid question of why does Linux consider memory allocated via malloc(), but not used not good enough to mark that memory as used for /proc/meminfo? I can't mallco() anymore anyway. This is why watchdog's active test of trying to
allocate memory is better than its passive test of just groking /poc/memifno.<br>
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<b>To:</b> Chris Fowler <cfowler@outpostsentinel.com>; Atlanta Linux Enthusiasts <ale@ale.org><br>
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<div dir="ltr">Is your ram fully functional? Memtest results are 100% perfect?<br>
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Cgroups can direct oomkiller to odd locations.<br>
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Strange problem.<br>
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I just enabled 500M of swap on the device, but it does not use disk. I uses a zram device. The kernel configured 500M of compressed ram for the use of swap. The oom program was able to grab 134 chunks before watchdog restarted. That's 1.3G. Is my kernel
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<b>Sent:</b> Friday, August 21, 2020 8:16 PM<br>
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I've ran into an issue on a device which runs out of memory, but it refuses to panic on OOM. This creates a DOS affect. No SSH to the device, but I am still able to ping it. After reboot messages in syslog show the device has ran out of memory. Kernel is
2.,6.38 and system is 32bit.<br>
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I followed instructions on the URL below to test OOM panic. I compiled an ran the program to test. On a system with kernel 5.6.0 the OOM panics and system is restarted. It works, but on the problem device it is as if the OOM is not fully aware. free, /proc/meminfo,
vmstat, etc do not show memory usage skyrocketing as it does on the other system.</div>
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Free on the problem device before I run the program:</div>
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<span style="font-family:"Courier New",monospace">[root@basement]# free</span>
<div><span style="font-family:"Courier New",monospace"> total used free shared buffers cached</span></div>
<div><span style="font-family:"Courier New",monospace">Mem: 1964728 235380 1729348 0 12064 55388</span></div>
<div><span style="font-family:"Courier New",monospace">-/+ buffers/cache: 167928 1796800</span></div>
<div><span style="font-family:"Courier New",monospace">Swap: 0 0 0</span></div>
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Now, I run it and it is able to allocate 82 chunks at 10M each before malloc() failed:<br>
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<span style="font-family:"Courier New",monospace">[root@basement]# oom</span><br>
<div><span style="font-family:"Courier New",monospace">Allocated 82 chunks.</span></div>
<div><span style="font-family:"Courier New",monospace">Sleeping 60(s) before exiting.</span></div>
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<div>In another xterm I'll run free while oom is waiting to exit. Once it exits, all that memory is freed. No change.<br>
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<div><span style="font-family:"Courier New",monospace"> total used free shared buffers cached</span></div>
<div><span style="font-family:"Courier New",monospace">Mem: 1964728 236380 1728348 0 12112 55388</span></div>
<div><span style="font-family:"Courier New",monospace">-/+ buffers/cache: 168880 1795848</span></div>
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<div>If I run oom in another window it will only grab 2 chunks before failure. Also, watchdog is configured to restart if it can't allocate 20M of memory. Watchdog will restart the device because it is unable to grab it.</div>
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The system itself has 2G of RAM. <br>
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If that program was able to allocate 82x10 820M of RAM why did that not show up as used memory? Now, I'm curious as to why Iw as only able to allocate 830M if there is 1.7GB free?
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Below is grep 'MEM' config:</div>
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<span style="font-family:"Courier New",monospace"># CONFIG_CGROUP_MEM_RES_CTLR is not set</span>
<div><span style="font-family:"Courier New",monospace">CONFIG_SHMEM=y</span></div>
<div><span style="font-family:"Courier New",monospace">CONFIG_X86_SUPPORTS_MEMORY_FAILURE=y</span></div>
<div><span style="font-family:"Courier New",monospace">CONFIG_NO_BOOTMEM=y</span></div>
<div><span style="font-family:"Courier New",monospace"># CONFIG_MEMTEST is not set</span></div>
<div><span style="font-family:"Courier New",monospace"># CONFIG_NOHIGHMEM is not set</span></div>
<div><span style="font-family:"Courier New",monospace">CONFIG_HIGHMEM4G=y</span></div>
<div><span style="font-family:"Courier New",monospace"># CONFIG_HIGHMEM64G is not set</span></div>
<div><span style="font-family:"Courier New",monospace">CONFIG_HIGHMEM=y</span></div>
<div><span style="font-family:"Courier New",monospace">CONFIG_ARCH_FLATMEM_ENABLE=y</span></div>
<div><span style="font-family:"Courier New",monospace">CONFIG_ARCH_SPARSEMEM_ENABLE=y</span></div>
<div><span style="font-family:"Courier New",monospace">CONFIG_ARCH_SELECT_MEMORY_MODEL=y</span></div>
<div><span style="font-family:"Courier New",monospace">CONFIG_SELECT_MEMORY_MODEL=y</span></div>
<div><span style="font-family:"Courier New",monospace">CONFIG_FLATMEM_MANUAL=y</span></div>
<div><span style="font-family:"Courier New",monospace"># CONFIG_SPARSEMEM_MANUAL is not set</span></div>
<div><span style="font-family:"Courier New",monospace">CONFIG_FLATMEM=y</span></div>
<div><span style="font-family:"Courier New",monospace">CONFIG_FLAT_NODE_MEM_MAP=y</span></div>
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<div><span style="font-family:"Courier New",monospace">CONFIG_HAVE_MEMBLOCK=y</span></div>
<div><span style="font-family:"Courier New",monospace">CONFIG_ARCH_SUPPORTS_MEMORY_FAILURE=y</span></div>
<div><span style="font-family:"Courier New",monospace"># CONFIG_MEMORY_FAILURE is not set</span></div>
<div><span style="font-family:"Courier New",monospace">CONFIG_X86_BOOTPARAM_MEMORY_CORRUPTION_CHECK=y</span></div>
<div><span style="font-family:"Courier New",monospace">CONFIG_ARCH_ENABLE_MEMORY_HOTPLUG=y</span></div>
<div><span style="font-family:"Courier New",monospace"># CONFIG_BLK_DEV_UMEM is not set</span></div>
<div><span style="font-family:"Courier New",monospace">CONFIG_INPUT_FF_MEMLESS=y</span></div>
<div><span style="font-family:"Courier New",monospace">CONFIG_DEVKMEM=y</span></div>
<div><span style="font-family:"Courier New",monospace">CONFIG_FIX_EARLYCON_MEM=y</span></div>
<div><span style="font-family:"Courier New",monospace"># CONFIG_HW_RANDOM_TIMERIOMEM is not set</span></div>
<div><span style="font-family:"Courier New",monospace"># CONFIG_MEMSTICK is not set</span></div>
<div><span style="font-family:"Courier New",monospace">CONFIG_FIRMWARE_MEMMAP=y</span></div>
<div><span style="font-family:"Courier New",monospace"># CONFIG_DEBUG_KMEMLEAK is not set</span></div>
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<div><span style="font-family:"Courier New",monospace">CONFIG_HAVE_ARCH_KMEMCHECK=y</span></div>
<div><span style="font-family:"Courier New",monospace"># CONFIG_STRICT_DEVMEM is not set</span></div>
<div><span style="font-family:"Courier New",monospace">CONFIG_ASYNC_MEMCPY=y</span></div>
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