<html dir="ltr"><head></head><body style="text-align:left; direction:ltr;"><div>I have no problems with ebay purchases. I have a card designated on Paypal and use it exclusively. I've also ordered ebay gear for work with the corp card. That card number was "re-used" elsewhere but it was also used on Amazon with 3rd-party sellers as well locally with some retail places.</div><div><br></div><div>On Fri, 2019-10-25 at 11:25 -0400, Leam Hall via Ale wrote:</div><blockquote type="cite" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex; border-left:2px #729fcf solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr"><div>Three days after my one and only e-bay purchase, using a brand new PayPal card that had only gotten used for Amazon, someone orders network gear with my card info. I would strongly recommend not doing anything with e-bay.</div><div><br></div></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Fri, Oct 25, 2019 at 10:40 AM DJ-Pfulio via Ale <<a href="mailto:ale@ale.org">ale@ale.org</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote type="cite" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex; border-left:2px #729fcf solid;padding-left:1ex">I've had good luck with eBay purchases of off-lease laptops. The last<br>
one came with a 90 day warranty and was about 50% off the price of a new<br>
system. The seller had tens of thousands of excellent reviews. The<br>
purchase was exactly as expected. 8th generation Core i5 for $305,<br>
including factory ready Win10 install.<br>
<br>
I never saw the Win10 - pulled the HDD and put in an SSD, then last<br>
month repurposed that HDD for an emergency need before another HDD<br>
failed. I think the Win10 license is stored in the BIOS somewhere, but<br>
I don't know anything about Win10 today.<br>
<br>
I might be having the same Intuit problem as you, but not with TurboTax.<br>
We dumped them decades ago over DRM and have been happily using a<br>
different tool.<br>
<br>
On 10/24/19 12:30 PM, Neal Rhodes via Ale wrote:<br>
> Slightly off-topic, but not too much.<br>
> <br>
> My wife and partner informs me that TurboTax will no longer run on her<br>
> Win7 desktop. Without TurboTax, life ends as we know it.<br>
> <br>
> We have used off-lease refurbs for most of our company's life. If it's<br>
> a server, I get a refurb and replace the disk with a new mirrored pair.<br>
> (and load linux) If it's a desktop, I feel lucky.<br>
> <br>
> Thus far we've been fortunate at getting them from Tiger Direct. Alas,<br>
> no longer. Got one on Amazon a few years back and that has been fine<br>
> for Android development.<br>
> <br>
> So, I trying to find average form factor 8GB, 1TB disk, Win 10 Pro, VGA<br>
> & HDMI. When I look at Amazon, there are plenty of choices. Many of<br>
> which have 15-25% one-star ratings. And you read them, it's a horror<br>
> show - "arrived with broken power supply", "NIC intermittent", "Vendor<br>
> non-communicative".<br>
> <br>
> Yes, Amazon is horrible at policing their suppliers. I'm<br>
> wondering.... are companies being more selective at only letting go of<br>
> their desktops when they know they are going south? Are refurb vendors<br>
> getting worse?<br>
> <br>
> Is there anybody we like for refurbs these days?<br>
> <br>
> I see the last one I bought was from Amazon Renewed, which says it has a<br>
> 90 day Amazon guarantee. I just checked at it has a 19% one star<br>
> review. I guess I was just lucky.<br>
> <br>
> Regards, <br>
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