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<body style="text-align:left; direction:ltr;"><div>Confirm: Intel's fortran compiler produced perfectly working code than ran flawlessly on a dual CPU Opteron system. Is it as performance optimized as an Intel CPU? Likely not but I expect it to be very, very close. Close enough that the cost savings are fully justified.</div><div><br></div><div>On Mon, 2019-10-14 at 10:03 -0400, Jeff Hubbs via Ale wrote:</div><blockquote type="cite" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex; border-left:2px #729fcf solid;padding-left:1ex">
<div class="moz-cite-prefix">Confirm/refute: I've been told that in
this day and age, there's no reason to not use a Ryzen if you have
to use Intel's Fortran compiler.<br>
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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 10/14/19 9:13 AM, Calvin Harrigan
via Ale wrote:<br>
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<div dir="auto">I've used Nvidia GPUs and AMD processors for
years. Never had a problem.
<div dir="auto">I built a ryzen system earlier this year on the
cheap. Mb/ram/CPU < 500. I could have gone cheaper, but I
wanted 8 cores and some future proofing.</div>
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<div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Sun, Oct 13, 2019, 19:15
DJ-Pfulio via Ale <<a href="mailto:ale@ale.org" moz-do-not-send="true">ale@ale.org</a>> wrote:<br>
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<blockquote type="cite" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex; border-left:2px #729fcf solid;padding-left:1ex">I'm running
a Ryzen 2600 with an nVidia GPU. Works great. I don't do any<br>
CUDA stuff. Suppose I could add an old GPU into the system to
be used<br>
for GUI stuff, but that isn't my skillset.<br>
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I'd be surprised if someone here didn't have both AMD and
nVidia GPUs in<br>
the same machine somewhere.<br>
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On 10/13/19 4:11 PM, Jeffrey Layton via Ale wrote:<br>
> Thanks very much! I really appreciate the advice.<br>
> <br>
> I'm not a gamer, more of a scientific user/HPC person. I
will be using<br>
> NV cards so that's kind of important.<br>
> <br>
> BTW - $300 is for the CPU only. :)<br>
> <br>
> I'm not too worried about 95W or 65W but thanks for the<br>
> tip about the processor models and the power draw.<br>
> <br>
> I'm with you - I've upgraded this case at least once. I'm<br>
> hoping it will last me a little long :)?? I think it will.<br>
> <br>
> Thanks!<br>
> <br>
> Jeff<br>
> <br>
> <br>
> On Sun, Oct 13, 2019 at 1:21 PM DJ-Pfulio via Ale <<a href="mailto:ale@ale.org" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer" moz-do-not-send="true">ale@ale.org</a><br>
> <mailto:<a href="mailto:ale@ale.org" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer" moz-do-not-send="true">ale@ale.org</a>>>
wrote:<br>
> <br>
>?? ?? ??+1 for AMD Ryzen.<br>
> <br>
>?? ?? ??Is $300 total cost or CPU-only cost?<br>
>?? ?? ??3600x - $200<br>
>?? ?? ??3600 - $180<br>
>?? ?? ??2600 - $115<br>
>?? ?? ??1600 - $80<br>
> <br>
>?? ?? ??I think I could build a system (CPU+RAM+MB) around a
Ryzen 2600 for $300<br>
>?? ?? ??(12K+ passmarks).?? That's 6 cores, 12 threads.?? Intel
isn't anywhere<br>
>?? ?? ??near that price/performance.?? Ryzen APU models with
onboard GPUs end in<br>
>?? ?? ??'g', so 2400g.?? I wouldn't want to mix AMD and nvidia
GPUs on the same<br>
>?? ?? ??system, but people mix Intel iGPUs with both all the
time.<br>
> <br>
>?? ?? ??I've been reusing the same case, GPU, HDDs, and all
other stuff for<br>
>?? ?? ??years, just swapping the CPU+MB usually, but DDR4
required I get new<br>
>?? ?? ??RAM.<br>
> <br>
>?? ?? ??I think I could do $220 for the Ryzen 1600+RAM+MB if
I needed to go<br>
>?? ?? ??cheap.?? That's over 10K passmarks for that price.<br>
> <br>
>?? ?? ??With Ryzen, the 'x' in the model means 95W+. Without
the 'x', 65W, if<br>
>?? ?? ??that is important to you.<br>
> <br>
>?? ?? ??If you game and that is important, it is completely
different. If you<br>
>?? ?? ??need more cores, AMD is the best game the last few
years.<br>
> <br>
>?? ?? ??On 10/13/19 8:43 AM, Jim Kinney via Ale wrote:<br>
>?? ?? ??> As always, AMD is pretty much "best bang for the
buck". I'm not<br>
>?? ?? ??dealing<br>
>?? ?? ??> with home user gear much these days but the
Ryzen cpu is a fantastic<br>
>?? ?? ??> value. If you plan to use gpu number crunchers,
just make sure the x16<br>
>?? ?? ??> slots are double width apart. Don't skimp on the
power supply or<br>
>?? ?? ??case fans.<br>
>?? ?? ??><br>
>?? ?? ??> On October 13, 2019 8:37:17 AM EDT, Jeffrey
Layton via Ale<br>
>?? ?? ??<<a href="mailto:ale@ale.org" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer" moz-do-not-send="true">ale@ale.org</a>
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>?? ?? ??> wrote:<br>
>?? ?? ??><br>
>?? ?? ??>?? ?? ??Good morning,<br>
>?? ?? ??><br>
>?? ?? ??>?? ?? ??I don't want to start an argument,
particularly on a Sunday<br>
>?? ?? ??morning,<br>
>?? ?? ??>?? ?? ??but I'm looking for a new "workstation" at
home. I haven't built<br>
>?? ?? ??>?? ?? ??anything in the last few years, so any help
would be appreciated.<br>
>?? ?? ??><br>
>?? ?? ??>?? ?? ??Someone is loaning me 2xNVIDIA GPUs that are
x16 PCIe each.<br>
>?? ?? ??I'd like<br>
>?? ?? ??>?? ?? ??to have both in a x16 slot physically and
electrically. Other than<br>
>?? ?? ??>?? ?? ??that, at least 4cores (more is better).
Perhaps something with<br>
>?? ?? ??>?? ?? ??built-in graphics (not always necessary but
the two NV cards<br>
>?? ?? ??are not<br>
>?? ?? ??>?? ?? ??really designed for graphics - mostly
computation). I can always<br>
>?? ?? ??>?? ?? ??throw in a simple inexpensive GPU. I'd like
to keep the price<br>
>?? ?? ??below<br>
>?? ?? ??>?? ?? ??$300 but I can go a little higher I think.<br>
>?? ?? ??><br>
>?? ?? ??>?? ?? ??I don't mind AMD or Intel. I don't mind
having to buy a new MB and<br>
>?? ?? ??>?? ?? ??memory. With these two cards and a new CPU,
I'm sure I'll have to<br>
>?? ?? ??>?? ?? ??buy a new PSU (probably 1kW or greater since
each GPU is about<br>
>?? ?? ??300W).<br>
>?? ?? ??><br>
>?? ?? ??>?? ?? ??To get things started, Newegg has a pretty
good deal on the<br>
>?? ?? ??>?? ?? ??i7-6800K. 6c/12t, 4 memory channels. Right
now it's about $324<br>
>?? ?? ??>?? ??<br>
>?? ?? ????(<a href="https://www.newegg.com/intel-core-i7-6th-gen-core-i7-6800k/p/N82E16819117649?Item=9SIA4RE7MX7779" rel="noreferrer noreferrer" target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">https://www.newegg.com/intel-core-i7-6th-gen-core-i7-6800k/p/N82E16819117649?Item=9SIA4RE7MX7779</a><br>
>?? ?? ??>?? ?? ??).<br>
>?? ?? ??><br>
>?? ?? ??>?? ?? ??Thanks for any and all suggestions!<br>
> <br>
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