<div dir="ltr"><div>Thanks very much! I really appreciate the advice.</div><div><br></div><div>I'm not a gamer, more of a scientific user/HPC person. I will be using</div><div>NV cards so that's kind of important.</div><div><br></div><div>BTW - $300 is for the CPU only. :)</div><div><br></div><div>I'm not too worried about 95W or 65W but thanks for the</div><div>tip about the processor models and the power draw.</div><div><br></div><div>I'm with you - I've upgraded this case at least once. I'm</div><div>hoping it will last me a little long :) I think it will.</div><div><br></div><div>Thanks!</div><div><br></div><div>Jeff</div><div><br></div></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Sun, Oct 13, 2019 at 1:21 PM DJ-Pfulio via Ale <<a href="mailto:ale@ale.org">ale@ale.org</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">+1 for AMD Ryzen.<br>
<br>
Is $300 total cost or CPU-only cost?<br>
3600x - $200<br>
3600 - $180<br>
2600 - $115<br>
1600 - $80<br>
<br>
I think I could build a system (CPU+RAM+MB) around a Ryzen 2600 for $300<br>
(12K+ passmarks). That's 6 cores, 12 threads. Intel isn't anywhere<br>
near that price/performance. Ryzen APU models with onboard GPUs end in<br>
'g', so 2400g. I wouldn't want to mix AMD and nvidia GPUs on the same<br>
system, but people mix Intel iGPUs with both all the time.<br>
<br>
I've been reusing the same case, GPU, HDDs, and all other stuff for<br>
years, just swapping the CPU+MB usually, but DDR4 required I get new RAM.<br>
<br>
I think I could do $220 for the Ryzen 1600+RAM+MB if I needed to go<br>
cheap. That's over 10K passmarks for that price.<br>
<br>
With Ryzen, the 'x' in the model means 95W+. Without the 'x', 65W, if<br>
that is important to you.<br>
<br>
If you game and that is important, it is completely different. If you<br>
need more cores, AMD is the best game the last few years.<br>
<br>
On 10/13/19 8:43 AM, Jim Kinney via Ale wrote:<br>
> As always, AMD is pretty much "best bang for the buck". I'm not dealing<br>
> with home user gear much these days but the Ryzen cpu is a fantastic<br>
> value. If you plan to use gpu number crunchers, just make sure the x16<br>
> slots are double width apart. Don't skimp on the power supply or case fans.<br>
> <br>
> On October 13, 2019 8:37:17 AM EDT, Jeffrey Layton via Ale <<a href="mailto:ale@ale.org" target="_blank">ale@ale.org</a>><br>
> wrote:<br>
> <br>
> Good morning,<br>
> <br>
> I don't want to start an argument, particularly on a Sunday morning,<br>
> but I'm looking for a new "workstation" at home. I haven't built<br>
> anything in the last few years, so any help would be appreciated.<br>
> <br>
> Someone is loaning me 2xNVIDIA GPUs that are x16 PCIe each. I'd like<br>
> to have both in a x16 slot physically and electrically. Other than<br>
> that, at least 4cores (more is better). Perhaps something with<br>
> built-in graphics (not always necessary but the two NV cards are not<br>
> really designed for graphics - mostly computation). I can always<br>
> throw in a simple inexpensive GPU. I'd like to keep the price below<br>
> $300 but I can go a little higher I think.<br>
> <br>
> I don't mind AMD or Intel. I don't mind having to buy a new MB and<br>
> memory. With these two cards and a new CPU, I'm sure I'll have to<br>
> buy a new PSU (probably 1kW or greater since each GPU is about 300W).<br>
> <br>
> To get things started, Newegg has a pretty good deal on the<br>
> i7-6800K. 6c/12t, 4 memory channels. Right now it's about $324<br>
> (<a href="https://www.newegg.com/intel-core-i7-6th-gen-core-i7-6800k/p/N82E16819117649?Item=9SIA4RE7MX7779" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">https://www.newegg.com/intel-core-i7-6th-gen-core-i7-6800k/p/N82E16819117649?Item=9SIA4RE7MX7779</a><br>
> ).<br>
> <br>
> Thanks for any and all suggestions!<br>
> <br>
> Jeff<br>
> <br>
> <br>
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