<html><head></head><body>If you are personally at risk, um, discussing a need for vpn on a public forum is big red flag.<br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On September 6, 2019 7:27:14 AM MDT, Jeffrey Brown via Ale <ale@ale.org> wrote:<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); padding-left: 1ex;">
<div dir="ltr">I'm paying more like $33/year for PIA. They have similar pricing now if you buy for 2 years, but I'm not sure if it is available to new subscribers or if it's a retention thing. My only hesitation is their location in the US, but without retaining any logs, they have nothing that would be responsive to a warrant or subpoena...though there is the at least hypothetical possibility of a court order to BEGIN monitoring your activity specifically. If you are personally at risk for that sort of special love from the government, you may want to opt for one of the non-US-based options.<div><br clear="all"><div><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_signature" data-smartmail="gmail_signature"><div dir="ltr"><div><div dir="ltr"><div><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div>Jeffrey D. Brown</div><div>GPG/PGP Public Key ID: A05E4182<br>("It's an older key, sir, but it checks out.")</div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div><br></div></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Fri, Sep 6, 2019 at 8:59 AM Jeffrey Layton <<a href="mailto:laytonjb@gmail.com">laytonjb@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr"><div>Thanks! I'm looking at all three options you mentioned. I like ProtonVPN because of Protonmail (I want to move away from gmail as you mentioned). The full package from ProtonVPN that includes ProtonMail is pretty expensive ($33/month?) so I'm looking at other packages.</div><div><br></div><div>PIA and NordVPN look good as well. I wish they had built-in secure mail like ProtonMail. <br></div><div><br></div><div>Thanks!</div><div><br></div><div>Jeff</div><div><br></div></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Fri, Sep 6, 2019 at 12:35 PM Jeffrey Brown <<a href="mailto:jeffreydbrown@gmail.com" target="_blank">jeffreydbrown@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr">I use Private Internet Access (PIA), primarily because I am locked into a very low annual rate due to early adoption and because my needs are pretty minimal. I started an annual trial of PIA and NordVPN at the same time, and I ended up renewing PIA and allowing NordVPN to lapse on largely financial grounds. While I have no particular complaint with PIA, if money had not been a serious constraint at the time of renewal, I would have stayed with NordVPN instead, due to their being located outside the US. <div><br></div><div>While I have not tried their VPN service, I strongly consider ProtonVPN if NordVPN did not exist. I am considering migrating fully from Gmail to ProtonMail and from the pay-with-all-of-my-personal-information model of Internet services, which I abhor, to the more rational cash-for-service model that should have always been the norm. <br clear="all"><div><div dir="ltr" class="gmail-m_7409469277809686504gmail-m_9141346130991519158gmail_signature"><div dir="ltr"><div><div dir="ltr"><div><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div><br></div><div>Jeffrey D. Brown</div><div>GPG/PGP Public Key ID: A05E4182<br>("It's an older key, sir, but it checks out.")</div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div><br></div></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Wed, Sep 4, 2019 at 11:27 AM Jeffrey Layton via Ale <<a href="mailto:ale@ale.org" target="_blank">ale@ale.org</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr"><div>Good morning (just barely),</div><div><br></div><div>I'm looking for a commercial VPN service. Most likely outside the US :) Does anyone have suggestions?</div><div><br></div><div>Thanks!</div><div><br></div><div>Jeff</div><div><br></div></div>
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