<html dir="ltr"><head></head><body style="text-align:left; direction:ltr;"><div>Lucky me I still kept my RISC gear, too - oh, wait...</div><div><br></div><div>On Tue, 2019-06-18 at 20:58 +0000, Lightner, Jeffrey via Ale wrote:</div><blockquote type="cite" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex; border-left:2px #729fcf solid;padding-left:1ex"><pre>One of the things that annoyed me back when we started moving from HP-UX to Linux was how many things (hardware and applications) on Linux and intel based systems still relied on 32 bit years after UNIX variants had all gone to 64 bit RISC.</pre><pre><br></pre><pre>Luckily Itanium came along to save the day - oh wait...</pre><pre><br></pre><pre><br></pre><pre>-----Original Message-----</pre><pre>From: Ale <</pre><a href="mailto:ale-bounces@ale.org"><pre>ale-bounces@ale.org</pre></a><pre>> On Behalf Of DJ-Pfulio via Ale</pre><pre>Sent: Tuesday, June 18, 2019 4:10 PM</pre><pre>To: </pre><a href="mailto:ale@ale.org"><pre>ale@ale.org</pre></a><pre><br></pre><pre>Subject: Re: [ale] Ubuntu Dropping all 32-bit Releases from 19.10 forward</pre><pre><br></pre><pre><br></pre><pre>There isn't any hurry to leave Ubuntu. 18.04 support goes until mid-2023.</pre><pre><br></pre><pre>Ubuntu people are likely to move to a debian-based solution to stay in the same family with APT if they don't just swap HW. 32-bit HW is pretty old at this point.</pre><pre><br></pre><pre><br></pre><pre><br></pre><pre>On 6/18/19 3:37 PM, Chuck Payne via Ale wrote:</pre><blockquote type="cite" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex; border-left:2px #729fcf solid;padding-left:1ex"><pre>Not sure why the ?? But yes Tumbleweed has 64-bit, 32-bit, arm and power pc.</pre><pre><br></pre><pre>Yes I been a member of openSUSE since 2008.</pre><pre><br></pre><pre>On Tue, Jun 18, 2019, 3:15 PM Jeff Hubbs via Ale <</pre><a href="mailto:ale@ale.org"><pre>ale@ale.org</pre></a><pre> </pre><pre><mailto:</pre><a href="mailto:ale@ale.org"><pre>ale@ale.org</pre></a><pre>>> wrote:</pre><pre><br></pre><pre> Gentoo won't leave you hanging either, at least not for now. The</pre><pre> default x86_64 (called "amd64" architecture just because AMD beat</pre><pre> Intel to market) profile still has 32-bit libs present (useful for</pre><pre> WINE, IIRC) but you can select a -nomultilib profile and it'll whack</pre><pre> 'em to leave you straight-up 64-bit all around. I still have a</pre><pre> couple of 32-bitters in my rack at home that run fine.</pre><pre><br></pre><pre> On 6/18/19 2:57 PM, Chuck Payne via Ale wrote:</pre><blockquote type="cite" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex; border-left:2px #729fcf solid;padding-left:1ex"><pre> For now you can get 32-Bit from openSUSE Tumbleweed.??</pre><pre><br></pre><pre> On Tue, Jun 18, 2019 at 2:48 PM DJ-Pfulio via Ale <</pre><a href="mailto:ale@ale.org"><pre>ale@ale.org</pre></a><pre><br></pre><pre> <mailto:</pre><a href="mailto:ale@ale.org"><pre>ale@ale.org</pre></a><pre>>> wrote:</pre><pre><br></pre><pre> </pre><a href="https://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2019/06/ubuntu-is-dropping-all-32-bit-sup"><pre>https://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2019/06/ubuntu-is-dropping-all-32-bit-sup</pre></a><pre><br></pre><pre>port-going-forward</pre><pre><br></pre><pre><br></pre><pre> 18.04 LTS is the last 32-bit release.</pre><pre><br></pre><pre> 19.10 will not have any 32-bit support. Zero.</pre><pre><br></pre><pre> No 32-bit upgrade from prior releases.</pre><pre><br></pre><pre> "Ubuntu say maintaining packages for the i386 architecture is more</pre><pre> hassle than its worth"</pre><pre><br></pre><pre> BTW, they really dropped i686 support for non-Intel/AMD</pre><pre> systems, since</pre><pre> many of the specialty CPUs didn't include all the instructions</pre><pre> that i686</pre><pre> Intel CPUs did, but were still used by the Ubuntu kernels.</pre><pre><br></pre><pre> Anyone interested in a PentiumM laptop? </pre></blockquote></blockquote><pre>_______________________________________________</pre><pre>Ale mailing list</pre><a href="mailto:Ale@ale.org"><pre>Ale@ale.org</pre></a><pre><br></pre><a href="https://mail.ale.org/mailman/listinfo/ale"><pre>https://mail.ale.org/mailman/listinfo/ale</pre></a><pre><br></pre><pre>See JOBS, ANNOUNCE and SCHOOLS lists at</pre><a href="http://mail.ale.org/mailman/listinfo"><pre>http://mail.ale.org/mailman/listinfo</pre></a><pre><br></pre><pre>_______________________________________________</pre><pre>Ale mailing list</pre><a href="mailto:Ale@ale.org"><pre>Ale@ale.org</pre></a><pre><br></pre><a href="https://mail.ale.org/mailman/listinfo/ale"><pre>https://mail.ale.org/mailman/listinfo/ale</pre></a><pre><br></pre><pre>See JOBS, ANNOUNCE and SCHOOLS lists at</pre><a href="http://mail.ale.org/mailman/listinfo"><pre>http://mail.ale.org/mailman/listinfo</pre></a><pre><br></pre></blockquote><div><span><pre><pre>-- <br></pre>James P. Kinney III
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