<html dir="ltr"><head></head><body style="text-align:left; direction:ltr;"><div>Airborne illness is super hard to avoid without facemasks all the time. While most flu is contact, walking though a fresh cough/sneeze cloud is a highly effective transmission vector.</div><div><br></div><div>On Wed, 2019-05-22 at 16:18 -0500, Neal Rhodes via Ale wrote:</div><blockquote type="cite" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex; border-left:2px #729fcf solid;padding-left:1ex"><pre>Yeah, it sounds paranoid. But I did all the Purell precautions, and </pre><pre>came down with Influenza after 9 days at sea. In spite of having gotten </pre><pre>flu shot. Got confined to cabin for two days in Spain which ticked me </pre><pre>off. Plus Tamiflu for me and wife at $200 a pop. Then got Bronchitis </pre><pre>at the end of 2nd cruise. First time sick in years.</pre><pre><br></pre><pre>On 2019-05-22 15:17, Lightner, Jeffrey via Ale wrote:</pre><blockquote type="cite" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex; border-left:2px #729fcf solid;padding-left:1ex"><pre>If someone is that paranoid they should carry their own tongs. Maybe</pre><pre>watching a few episodes of Monk would teach one how to pack properly.</pre><pre>:p</pre><pre><br></pre><pre><br></pre><pre>-----Original Message-----</pre><pre>From: Ale <</pre><a href="mailto:ale-bounces@ale.org"><pre>ale-bounces@ale.org</pre></a><pre>> On Behalf Of Neal Rhodes via Ale</pre><pre>Sent: Wednesday, May 22, 2019 2:04 PM</pre><pre>To: DJ-Pfulio <</pre><a href="mailto:DJPfulio@jdpfu.com"><pre>DJPfulio@jdpfu.com</pre></a><pre>>; Atlanta Linux Enthusiasts </pre><pre><</pre><a href="mailto:ale@ale.org"><pre>ale@ale.org</pre></a><pre>></pre><pre>Subject: Re: [ale] OT: Blocking Android app access over wifi</pre><pre><br></pre><pre>On 2019-05-22 12:01, DJ-Pfulio via Ale wrote:</pre><blockquote type="cite" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex; border-left:2px #729fcf solid;padding-left:1ex"><pre>I've had my Purell stolen by foreign customs when leaving to come to</pre><pre>the USA. Overzealous interpretations of US prohibited carry on.</pre></blockquote><pre><br></pre><pre>My point w.r.t. cruise was that Purell is provided at entrance to the</pre><pre>buffet, and most guests use it. Then some bozo sneezes, and of</pre><pre>course, when you sneeze, if you are a bozo, you sneeze into your given</pre><pre>hand.</pre><pre>And then you use that hand to pick up the tongs. Which has now</pre><pre>contaminated the tongs.</pre><pre><br></pre><pre>RCC also has Purell in multiple places such that you can re-goop your</pre><pre>serving hand as you head for your table. Or just always use the </pre><pre>dining</pre><pre>hall. IMHO, the food on your plate in the dining hall has been </pre><pre>touched</pre><pre>by far fewer hands, and food contamination flows in one direction.</pre><pre>The buffet is just a giant contagion bowl of random motion.</pre><pre><br></pre><blockquote type="cite" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex; border-left:2px #729fcf solid;padding-left:1ex"><pre><br></pre><pre>Also had water purchased AT THE GATE, inside security, taken 10 ft</pre><pre>from entering the aircraft door. This has happened in 3 different</pre><pre>countries ... actually from 3 different continents on return flights </pre><pre>to the USA.</pre><pre><br></pre><pre>I've always been able to live without data connectivity away from home</pre><pre>and work. Sure, it is "nice to have", but just get your offline maps</pre><pre>and mark the places you want to see BEFORE leaving.</pre></blockquote><pre><br></pre><pre>I agree. I build Google maps for each port, including important phone</pre><pre>numbers, and then export to a .Kmz file, then import that into</pre><pre>Maps.Me.</pre><pre>Then I don't need data based mapping.</pre><pre><br></pre><pre>BUT, when the poop hits the ventilator, the bus gets a flat, the</pre><pre>rental car doesn't show up, somebody twists an ankle and you NEED an</pre><pre>Uber, you</pre><pre>may still need local phone service. Payphones a tourist can access </pre><pre>are</pre><pre>mighty rare in the EU.</pre><pre><br></pre><pre><br></pre><blockquote type="cite" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex; border-left:2px #729fcf solid;padding-left:1ex"><pre>What happens when your</pre><pre>phone is stolen at the first port? A friend had his phone stolen on</pre><pre>day-1 of a 3 week European trip (along with his wallet all credit</pre><pre>cards,</pre><pre>cash). His backup phone was stolen on day-2. Thankfully, his </pre><pre>passport</pre><pre>wasn't stolen.</pre></blockquote><pre><br></pre><pre>I agree, it's a challenge. Regrettably, pickpockets are common in the</pre><pre>EU, especially Italy. It's a risk-less crime - there is little to no</pre><pre>chance a tourist will return to the EU for a trial date. No return</pre><pre>witness, case gets dismissed. So they operate with impunity. And they</pre><pre>get real good at it.</pre><pre><br></pre><blockquote type="cite" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex; border-left:2px #729fcf solid;padding-left:1ex"><pre><br></pre><pre>On 5/22/19 12:03 PM, Neal Rhodes via Ale wrote:</pre><blockquote type="cite" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex; border-left:2px #729fcf solid;padding-left:1ex"><pre>We got back recently from a transatlantic cruise back-to-back with a</pre><pre>Mediterranean cruise. We did the opposite of what you have done - </pre><pre>we</pre><pre>did not use ship data at all. I had a UK SIM card from going to</pre><pre>Ireland last year and stuffed that in. 20GBP for 8GB of data. And</pre><pre>roaming within EU is required. So we had no data onboard, but data</pre><pre>and</pre><pre>voice as soon as we hit ports. Practically, we wanted voice and </pre><pre>data</pre><pre>in ports - that's where we might get into trouble and need it. </pre><pre>Onboard</pre><pre>ship we have a sick bay.</pre><pre><br></pre><pre>Honestly, on RCC even the comedians onstage get to joke about how bad</pre><pre>the ship's WIFI is. You probably don't have the bandwidth to get </pre><pre>into</pre><pre>a</pre><pre>lot of trouble.</pre><pre><br></pre><pre>Yes, I think the Data Saver only applies to mobile data usage. Maybe</pre><pre>just leave the tablets in Airplane mode as others have suggested.</pre><pre><br></pre><pre>I will note that practically, in dozens of ports from Azores to</pre><pre>Dubrovnik we encountered ZERO customs. We just walked off and on the</pre><pre>ship. Only thing the ship cared about was smuggle booze onboard. </pre><pre>This</pre><pre>WAS a bit of a hassle on the flight back, because customs in</pre><pre>Copenhagen</pre><pre>groused that our password wasn't stamped on entry into the EU in the</pre><pre>Azores.</pre><pre><br></pre><pre>regards and have a nice trip. Use Purell EVERYWHERE. Especially</pre><pre>AFTER</pre><pre>you touch the tongs others have touched.</pre><pre><br></pre><pre>Neal</pre><pre><br></pre><pre><br></pre><pre><br></pre><pre>On 2019-05-22 09:29, Chris Fowler via Ale wrote:</pre><blockquote type="cite" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex; border-left:2px #729fcf solid;padding-left:1ex"><pre>Not sure if this is really OT since Android = Linux ;)</pre><pre><br></pre><pre>I'm going on a cruise in a few days and have purchased the maximum</pre><pre>data package from the ship. I need to severely limit wifi usage on</pre><pre>my</pre><pre>Note 8. I see I can block background from "Mobile Data", but I </pre><pre>don't</pre><pre>see a wifi option. I see I can restrict certain wifi APs and I'm</pre><pre>thinking that my treat them as mobile.</pre><pre><br></pre><pre>I've deleted apps I do not really need. I've block K-9 mail from</pre><pre>background on mobile, but I'd like to block it from foreground so</pre><pre>that</pre><pre>it only syncs when I tell it to. I'll check its config. I'll </pre><pre>delete</pre><pre>FaceBook and Messenger. I don't want to delete Dropbox or NextCloud</pre><pre>so I need to restrain them.</pre><pre><br></pre><pre>I've installed Google's Datally and it looks promising, but</pre><pre>everything</pre><pre>it does seems to be for mobile data only. I'd really like to treat</pre><pre>wifi with the same level of priority.</pre><pre><br></pre><pre>Any suggestions from those that may have locked their phone down?</pre></blockquote></blockquote><pre>_______________________________________________</pre><pre>Ale mailing list</pre><a href="mailto:Ale@ale.org"><pre>Ale@ale.org</pre></a><pre><br></pre><a href="https://mail.ale.org/mailman/listinfo/ale"><pre>https://mail.ale.org/mailman/listinfo/ale</pre></a><pre><br></pre><pre>See JOBS, ANNOUNCE and SCHOOLS lists at</pre><a href="http://mail.ale.org/mailman/listinfo"><pre>http://mail.ale.org/mailman/listinfo</pre></a><pre><br></pre></blockquote><pre>_______________________________________________</pre><pre>Ale mailing list</pre><a href="mailto:Ale@ale.org"><pre>Ale@ale.org</pre></a><pre><br></pre><a href="https://mail.ale.org/mailman/listinfo/ale"><pre>https://mail.ale.org/mailman/listinfo/ale</pre></a><pre><br></pre><pre>See JOBS, ANNOUNCE and SCHOOLS lists at</pre><a href="http://mail.ale.org/mailman/listinfo"><pre>http://mail.ale.org/mailman/listinfo</pre></a><pre><br></pre><pre>_______________________________________________</pre><pre>Ale mailing list</pre><a href="mailto:Ale@ale.org"><pre>Ale@ale.org</pre></a><pre><br></pre><a href="https://mail.ale.org/mailman/listinfo/ale"><pre>https://mail.ale.org/mailman/listinfo/ale</pre></a><pre><br></pre><pre>See JOBS, ANNOUNCE and SCHOOLS lists at</pre><a href="http://mail.ale.org/mailman/listinfo"><pre>http://mail.ale.org/mailman/listinfo</pre></a><pre><br></pre></blockquote><pre>_______________________________________________</pre><pre>Ale mailing list</pre><a href="mailto:Ale@ale.org"><pre>Ale@ale.org</pre></a><pre><br></pre><a href="https://mail.ale.org/mailman/listinfo/ale"><pre>https://mail.ale.org/mailman/listinfo/ale</pre></a><pre><br></pre><pre>See JOBS, ANNOUNCE and SCHOOLS lists at</pre><a href="http://mail.ale.org/mailman/listinfo"><pre>http://mail.ale.org/mailman/listinfo</pre></a><pre><br></pre></blockquote><div><span><pre><pre>-- <br></pre>James P. 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