<html><head><meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=UTF-8"></head><body><div> yes, I do get that. I'm just noting there's an option for people who might want to buy a Fire tablet and be able to run a variety of programs while they decide if they want to keep it. without totally cooking it and making it unreturnable.</div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div id="composer_signature"><meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=UTF-8">Sent from phone, please excuse spealingk.</div><div><br></div><div style="font-size:100%;color:#000000"><!-- originalMessage --><div>-------- Original message --------</div><div>From: Charles Shapiro via Ale <ale@ale.org> </div><div>Date: 3/5/19 1:33 PM (GMT-05:00) </div><div>To: Pete Hardie <pete.hardie@gmail.com>, Atlanta Linux Enthusiasts <ale@ale.org> </div><div>Subject: Re: [ale] SW root for Amazon Fire 8HD gen-7 possible </div><div><br></div></div><div dir="ltr"><div>Yeh, I considered that, and I would've done it had I been unable to root the device. But More Freedom Is Always Better.<br><br></div>-- CHS<br><br></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div class="gmail_attr" dir="ltr">On Tue, Mar 5, 2019 at 1:37 PM Pete Hardie via Ale <<a href="mailto:ale@ale.org">ale@ale.org</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex" class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:small" class="gmail_default">You say that like it's a bad thing<br></div></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div class="gmail_attr" dir="ltr">On Tue, Mar 5, 2019 at 1:25 PM Neal Rhodes via Ale <<a target="_blank" href="mailto:ale@ale.org">ale@ale.org</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex" class="gmail_quote"><br>
And of course it lacks a GPS chip.<br>
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On 2019-03-05 11:14, Charles Shapiro via Ale wrote:<br>
> Hmm. There's a lot of discussion on that page, but I think this (<br>
> <a target="_blank" rel="noreferrer" href="https://forum.xda-developers.com/hd8-hd10/orig-development/experimental-software-root-hd-8-hd-10-t3904595">https://forum.xda-developers.com/hd8-hd10/orig-development/experimental-software-root-hd-8-hd-10-t3904595</a><br>
> ) is the URL you really need.<br>
> <br>
> This is great news. The Amazon Fire tablet is wonderful hardware, and<br>
> it's really cheap -- like, $50 list and often discounted. I rooted my<br>
> 5th gen Amazon tablet ( KFFOWI, the 7" model) after some struggle.<br>
> After rooting, I installed the Fire Nexus ROM (<br>
> <a target="_blank" rel="noreferrer" href="https://forum.xda-developers.com/amazon-fire/orig-development/rom-fire-nexus-rom-lmy49f-t3300714">https://forum.xda-developers.com/amazon-fire/orig-development/rom-fire-nexus-rom-lmy49f-t3300714</a><br>
> ) and got out from under Amazon's draconian rule. At the time there<br>
> was no way to change out the bootloader itself, so when the machine<br>
> boots I still get the amazon logo. After that I'm free though. It's<br>
> a great little device for lying on the couch surfing the web. I could<br>
> use my phone for that, but the tablet's 7" screen is much more<br>
> comfortable.<br>
> <br>
> Alas, if I'm reading the threads right it looks like the newer Amazon<br>
> bootloaders are locked (they do a checksum on the OS ), and so far<br>
> there doesn't seem to be a working unlocked substitute. So you get<br>
> root, but you can't replace Amazon's OS yet. OTOH, with root that<br>
> should be coming shortly.<br>
> <br>
> << obligatory discussion of why the laws that force you to run<br>
> exploits against your own devices are idiotic and disgraceful<br>
> tactfully removed >><br>
> <br>
> -- CHS<br>
> <br>
> On Mon, Mar 4, 2019 at 6:10 PM DJ-Pfulio via Ale <<a target="_blank" href="mailto:ale@ale.org">ale@ale.org</a>> wrote:<br>
> <br>
>> Stolen from pi-hole project information. It is worth manually<br>
>> updating<br>
>> from time to time.<br>
>> <br>
>> Only needed on portable devices, IMHO. This assumes you have a local<br>
>> DNS<br>
>> with blocking enabled ... er ... like a pi-hole.<br>
>> <br>
>> On 3/4/19 5:02 PM, Jim Kinney wrote:<br>
>>> Aaaaaand...<br>
>>> <br>
>>> That 131K line anti-tracking hosts file is published.....<br>
>>> <br>
>>> On Mon, 2019-03-04 at 15:12 -0500, DJ-Pfulio via Ale wrote:<br>
>>>> Seems someone found a software root last week, 26th, for the 2017<br>
>> Amazon<br>
>>>> Fire 8HD tablets, finally! It provides a temporary root with<br>
>> SELinux<br>
>>>> disabled.<br>
>>>> <br>
>>>> It is 3-5 commands, depending on your existing developer options.<br>
>> In<br>
>>>> short, freakin' easy.<br>
>>>> <br>
>>>> <br>
>> <br>
> <a target="_blank" rel="noreferrer" href="https://forum.xda-developers.com/hd8-hd10/general/discussion-root-progress-fire-hd-8-t3743024/page104">https://forum.xda-developers.com/hd8-hd10/general/discussion-root-progress-fire-hd-8-t3743024/page104</a><br>
>>>> <br>
>>>> <br>
>>>> Tested it. Working here. YMMV. Be careful and don't brick yours.<br>
>>>> <br>
>>>> All I've done so far is replace the 1 line /etc/hosts with my<br>
>> 131K line<br>
>>>> anti-tracking variant. Verified that the worst tracking sites<br>
>> weren't<br>
>>>> available, then rebooted the tablet and verified they still<br>
>> weren't<br>
>>>> available.<br>
>>>> <br>
>>>> I may want to install a real firewall and busybox shortly, but<br>
>> haven't<br>
>>>> at this point.<br>
>>>> I did not install SuperSU.<br>
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