<html dir="ltr"><head></head><body style="text-align:left; direction:ltr;"><div>And of course no one uses the $0 version CentOS since it's too hard to use without an expensive consultant to do all the work.</div><div><br></div><div>RH made $2.9B last year because it works very well. If all one needs is a couple of one-off machines, any distro will do. Once you hit the high hundreds to thousands, the need for a very stable, well supported base OS becomes crystal clear. RedHat started out *simplifying* things for the large scale, enterprise IT shop. Not the commands but the overall operation of the systems. Is release 1.0 always baked fully? Nope. The joke has always been "upgrade when X.2 comes out". Still is pretty true. Admin's poke at the new release until X.2 then start the upgrade/replacement.</div><div><br></div><div>Of course RedHat never published any of the documentation on line for $0 ( <a href="https://access.redhat.com/documentation/en-US/">https://access.redhat.com/documentation/en-US/</a> )</div><div><br></div><div>Other distros have a different focus. </div><div><br></div><div>I'm *hoping* IBM won't screw it up but they probably will.</div><div><br></div><div>On Wed, 2018-11-07 at 15:13 -0500, Rich Roberts via Ale wrote:</div><blockquote type="cite" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex; border-left:2px #729fcf solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr">"Redhat, as it existed before the buyout, was all about complexifying<br>Linux to increase their consultation and training profit."<br><div> You really think RH could make 2 billion in revenue last year consulting and training on their operating system? Its kubernetes, open ledger, middleware, etc. IBM would build their own or buy a cheap one, if they just needed an operating system. They are trying to make up for the fact that their cloud offering sucks, get some good linux engineers, and get a foot into even more enterprise doors. </div></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr">On Mon, Nov 5, 2018 at 3:13 PM Steve Litt via Ale <<a href="mailto:ale@ale.org">ale@ale.org</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote type="cite" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex; border-left:2px #729fcf solid;padding-left:1ex">On Mon, 5 Nov 2018 11:36:41 -0500<br>
DJ-Pfulio via Ale <<a href="mailto:ale@ale.org" target="_blank">ale@ale.org</a>> wrote:<br>
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> On 11/5/18 10:31 AM, David Millians via Ale wrote:<br>
> > <br>
> > Because after last night's "bombshell" I'd really like to hear some<br>
> > chat... _______________________________________________ <br>
> <br>
> That KDE is being dropped from Redhat in ... 6 yrs?<br>
<br>
LOL, KDE and Redhat. If there have ever been two projects that deserved<br>
each other, it's those two. In 2012 banished all KDE executables and<br>
libraries from my computers because KDE is a monolithically entangled<br>
mess. Three years later I banished all systemd from my computer for the<br>
exact same reason.<br>
<br>
Redhat, as it existed before the buyout, was all about complexifying<br>
Linux to increase their consultation and training profit. Those motives<br>
should have incentivised Redhat to keep KDE,and perhaps make it even<br>
more complex.<br>
<br>
Perhaps this is our first clue that IBM's Redhat doesn't need or want<br>
complexification. If so, the future of systemd becomes, um, interesting.<br>
<br>
Stay tuned.<br>
<br>
SteveT<br>
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