<html dir="ltr"><head></head><body style="text-align:left; direction:ltr;"><div>Fuck the market. Full of sheeple. Notice Apple make a Gi-fucking-normous profit selling basically crapware. </div><div><br></div><div>If there was no advertising, there would be a free market.</div><div><br></div><div><wow. who pissed my korn flakes this morning :-) ></div><div><br></div><div>On Mon, 2018-11-05 at 12:26 -0500, DJ-Pfulio via Ale wrote:</div><blockquote type="cite" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex; border-left:2px #729fcf solid;padding-left:1ex"><pre>Let the market decide. When people want to try running Linux and can't,</pre><pre>that's when the walled-off-garden will matter to them.</pre><pre><br></pre><pre><br></pre><pre><br></pre><pre>On 11/5/18 11:49 AM, Jim Kinney wrote:</pre><pre><blockquote type="cite" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex; border-left:2px #729fcf solid;padding-left:1ex"></blockquote></pre><pre>So the walled garden now includes a roof and a tunnel-resistant basement.</pre><pre><br></pre><pre>I want a TPM/BIOS/EUFI chip that if it detects a non-free (as in speech)</pre><pre>OS it will brick the device after it charges a $500 fee from the abusers</pre><pre>credit card to pay into the EFF legal fund.</pre><pre><br></pre><pre>On Mon, 2018-11-05 at 11:35 -0500, DJ-Pfulio via Ale wrote:</pre><pre><blockquote type="cite" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex; border-left:2px #729fcf solid;padding-left:1ex"></blockquote></pre><pre>won't boot Linux, currently.</pre><pre><br></pre><pre>"At least until further notice, these new Apple systems sporting the T2</pre><pre>chip will not be able to boot Linux operating systems. Apple's T2</pre><pre>security chip being embedded into their newest products provides a</pre><pre>secure enclave, APFS storage encryption, UEFI Secure Boot validation,</pre><pre>Touch ID handling, a hardware microphone disconnect on lid close, and</pre><pre>other security tasks. The T2 restricts the boot process quite a bit and</pre><pre>verifies each step of the process using crypto keys signed by Apple. "</pre><pre><br></pre><pre><a href="https://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=Apple-T2-Blocks-Linux-UEFI">https://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=Apple-T2-Blocks-Linux-UEFI</a></pre><pre><br></pre><pre>So if you are planning to get some of that new Apple hardware to run</pre><pre>Linux on, do your research first. </pre><pre></pre><pre></pre><pre>_______________________________________________</pre><pre>Ale mailing list</pre><pre><a href="mailto:Ale@ale.org">Ale@ale.org</a></pre><pre><a href="https://mail.ale.org/mailman/listinfo/ale">https://mail.ale.org/mailman/listinfo/ale</a></pre><pre>See JOBS, ANNOUNCE and SCHOOLS lists at</pre><pre><a href="http://mail.ale.org/mailman/listinfo">http://mail.ale.org/mailman/listinfo</a></pre><pre><br></pre></blockquote><div><span><pre><pre>-- <br></pre>James P. Kinney III
Every time you stop a school, you will have to build a jail. What you
gain at one end you lose at the other. It's like feeding a dog on his
own tail. It won't fatten the dog.
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