<html dir="ltr"><head></head><body style="text-align:left; direction:ltr;"><div>On Tue, 2018-10-30 at 11:59 -0400, Steve Litt wrote:</div><blockquote type="cite" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex; border-left:2px #729fcf solid;padding-left:1ex"><pre>On Mon, 29 Oct 2018 10:47:05 -0400</pre><pre>Jim Kinney via Ale <<a href="mailto:ale@ale.org">ale@ale.org</a>> wrote:</pre><pre><br></pre><pre><blockquote type="cite" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex; border-left:2px #729fcf solid;padding-left:1ex"></blockquote></pre><pre>For those of us</pre><pre>using or interacting with RHEL systems, this is being viewed as a very</pre><pre>questionable thing for the continuity of RedHat philosophy. </pre><pre></pre><pre><br></pre><pre>The RedHat philosophy is "obfuscate to profit." Don't take my word for</pre><pre>it. Read former Redhat CEO Brian Stevens admit the motive at</pre><pre><a href="http://asay.blogspot.com/2006/10/interview-with-red-hat-cto-brian.html">http://asay.blogspot.com/2006/10/interview-with-red-hat-cto-brian.html</a></pre></blockquote><div><br></div><div>??? I don't understand your argument here. Not only does the word "obfuscate" not appear anywhere but there's no implied obfuscation in the interview.</div><div>RedHat changed from being just a packager to also being creator some years ago (shortly after the IPO). The purchased the LDAP from Netscape and turned it into a GPL'ed project and a money maker for them. They did exactly what they said they did; cleaned out the code they could not release under the GPL and wrote GPL'ed code to replace it. They sold support for the original package and funded the conversion.</div><div><br></div><div>Yep. Sounds like dirty pool and fishy community standards to me. </div><blockquote type="cite" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex; border-left:2px #729fcf solid;padding-left:1ex"><pre><br></pre><pre><blockquote type="cite" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex; border-left:2px #729fcf solid;padding-left:1ex"></blockquote></pre><pre>Doesn't</pre><pre>matter what people think about rpm's, systemd, elf binaries, etc,</pre><pre>RedHat has been a driving force in the Linux and GPL ecosystem.</pre><pre>Notice I said GPL and NOT open source. That was deliberate. RedHat</pre><pre>would take their $$$ and buy a product/process that was not GPL'ed,</pre><pre>clean up the codebase of all incompatible cruft, clean-room code to</pre><pre>backfill, and then release it under the GPL. </pre><pre></pre><pre><br></pre><pre>The Redhat that did that was already dead years ago.</pre></blockquote><div><br></div><div>Again, ????? </div><blockquote type="cite" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex; border-left:2px #729fcf solid;padding-left:1ex"><pre><br></pre><pre>From my perspective, one bad actor bought another.</pre></blockquote><div><br></div><div>And lastly, ????</div><blockquote type="cite" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex; border-left:2px #729fcf solid;padding-left:1ex"><pre><br></pre><pre>SteveT</pre></blockquote><div><br></div><div>Never understood why some people liked to hate on RedHat for making a profit from the work of others yet that _is_ the standard method of how things are done. Maybe it's that part where RedHat takes money and adds to the pool of GPL'ed software that is confusing. It is _so_ un-American. </snark></div><blockquote type="cite" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex; border-left:2px #729fcf solid;padding-left:1ex"><pre><br></pre><pre>Steve Litt </pre><pre>September 2018 featured book: Quit Joblessness: Start Your Own Business</pre><pre><a href="http://www.troubleshooters.com/startbiz">http://www.troubleshooters.com/startbiz</a></pre><pre><br></pre></blockquote><div><span><pre><pre>-- <br></pre>James P. Kinney III
Every time you stop a school, you will have to build a jail. What you
gain at one end you lose at the other. It's like feeding a dog on his
own tail. It won't fatten the dog.
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