[ale] OT: youtube and AI

[Pete Hardie]

"I for one welcome our new robot overlords"

I know that's at least 25 years old on Slashdot

On Thu, Dec 19, 2024 at 2:34 PM Jeff Lightner via Ale <ale at ale.org> wrote:

> Careful.   Their first “thoughts” might be “We need to eliminate biologics
> that complain.”   😝
>
> More than one Sci-Fi movie or show (including various Star Trek series
> starting with TOS) have plots where humans get involved with androids or
> other thinking machines only to find out they had killed of their original
> creators either in self defense (e.g. they were going to shut us down) or
> “for their own good”.  😊
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> *From:* Ale <ale-bounces at ale.org> *On Behalf Of *George Allen via Ale
> *Sent:* Thursday, December 19, 2024 2:13 PM
> *To:* Atlanta Linux Enthusiasts <ale at ale.org>
> *Cc:* George Allen <glallen01 at gmail.com>
> *Subject:* Re: [ale] OT: youtube and AI
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>
> All of her WTF? points ... it's bad enough with YouTube, but terrible in
> other arenas.
>
> My old pre 2012 Ford Escape died, and I had to get a new car (settled on a
> 2010 Prius).
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>
> Discovering all the "features" in "modern cars" like, non-mechanical
> gear-shifts and electric e-brakes, so you can't put the car in neutral or
> physically engage/disengage the parking brake without power and a "working
> computer" ... all pitched in the name of "more tech is better for you, the
> computer knows better than you" to the consumer and (likely) "it's cheaper
> to build electric linkages and we can sell it for more, vs engineering
> stuff like a independent mechanical parking brake."
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>
>
> Then there's:
> https://foundation.mozilla.org/en/privacynotincluded/articles/its-official-cars-are-the-worst-product-category-we-have-ever-reviewed-for-privacy/
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> So we're a "product" for the cars to mine, AND we should wholly trust the
> cars with our lives as well as our data, as soon as they become
> self-driving, as promised any day now next decade.
>
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> I love technology, and appreciate that things like hybrid / ev's and CVTs
> require some level of drive-by-wire, but not at the cost of a mechanical
> ebrake, or Subaru's "you've accepted license terms that let us record audio
> and video of you simply by sitting in the car," or "tech is inherently
> good, humans get distracted (because we've addicted them all to phones) so
> you should let the cars do the driving"
>
>
>
> Her "SkyNet is already perfect" conclusion seems like the same drum
> beating across AI "well you can't turn it off, but... interact with it
> _even more_ and make tuning suggestions" and the Auto Industry marketing
> all the data collection and computer-control > human-control designs as
> "safety features" for our own good.
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> It seems like Reddit is eating its own tail with AI at this point also.
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> If the computers are training themselves to think, what "thoughts" are
> they going to end up pushing towards the humans that stare at them en
> masse? The next chapter of all this history is going to make "Cambridge
> Analytica" look tame.
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> On Fri, Dec 6, 2024 at 12:06 PM Boris Borisov via Ale <ale at ale.org> wrote:
>
> I wasn't aware of that issue.
>
>
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> https://youtu.be/DteWHExa04I?si=FJl_XIg_fEI6zMW1
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