[ale] Slightly OT: recommendations for VOIP/SIP to SUPPORT POTS

[neal at mnopltd.com]

Smack! Thanks! I needed that!

I was digging around the 3cX website to see if it supported the HT802.  
Yes.

Then digging around regarding whether they would support getting our 
existing phone number from AT&T.  And then it got murky, and it started 
to dawn on me that 3cx really wasn't the whole equation.

And then you just answered the question I was about to ask.  Like Yoda.

So, 3cX is a dead horse for us.  Anyone have experience with voip.ms 
obtaining our old phone number from AT&T?

regards,

Neal

On 2022-11-12 15:06, Alex Carver via Ale wrote:
> The HT802 provides two line service using the standard inner/outer
> pair configuration of the single jack on the back. (That's why it's
> the HT802, two lines -- The HT801 is one line). Each line can be
> configured with separate SIP credentials/accounts to whomever the SIP
> provider is which would give you some combination of two lines. Some
> providers can give you two lines of the same number and others would
> give you two different numbers.
> 
> Keep in mind that a SIP trunking provider is different from a VoIP
> provider. The trunking provider doesn't necessarily have the POTS
> connection, the VoIP provider does. 3CX is a SIP trunking provider
> along with a cloud PBX provider. They're the ones you use to manage an
> office of VoIP phones but they don't necessarily give you the phone
> number. Instead you connect your 3CX system to a VoIP provider to get
> a phone number. So you really only need a VoIP provider that has the
> interconnections in place like voip.ms or Vonage or similar VoIP
> providers. For a single SIP device like the HT802 ATA that's all you'd
> need.
> 
> On 2022-11-11 08:04, Neal Rhodes via Ale wrote:
>> Thanks to all for replies.   Yes, sounds attractive.  No, don't want 
>> to add telecom guru to my brain if avoidable.  Installing subway tile 
>> backsplash in the kitchen is my brain exercise for the month. 
>> Following a known recipe would be more better.
>> 
>> So, instead of paying $50/mo to AT&T to enable the POTS jack on the 
>> back of their fiber device, which feeds the POTS wiring in the house, 
>> I can:
>> 
>> - Buy the Grandstream GS-HT802 2 Port Analog Telephone Adapter VoIP 
>> Phone & Device for $38 one time;
>> - Use VOIP.ms Residential for about $5/mo, or maybe 3CX for free/mo.
>> - Port the existing phone number.
>> - Plug the existing house wiring into the HT802
>> - Use the existing house phones for inbound & outbound.
>> 
>> Yes?
>> 
>> I also see some ambiguity - The HT802 says it is 2 ports.  It says 2 
>> SIP profiles.  Some of the comments indicate it supports POTS Line 1 & 
>> Line 2.  But the pictures only show one POTS jack.   (Which has 4 
>> wires, and can support two POTS lines)   Our POTS phones ARE 2 line, 
>> using a single POTS jack.  Are the pictures on Amazon wrong, does it 
>> really have two RJ11 jacks, or is the single jack handling both?
>> 
>> Some of the questions/answers suggest the HT812 in order to have 
>> inbound rollover from Line 1 to Line 2.  Which would be nice, but not 
>> necessary.
>> 
>> regards,
>> 
>> Neal
>> 
>> On 2022-11-09 22:27, DJPfulio--- via Ale wrote:
>>> On 11/9/22 21:18, Neal Rhodes via Ale wrote:
>>> 
>>>> https://www.amazon.com/Grandstream-WP810-Portable-Wi-Fi-Device/dp/B087D5TB7C/ref=asc_df_B087D5TB7C
>>> 
>>> If you are still happy with your POTS normal home phones, get an ATA
>>> like I suggested in the earlier message.  Mine is a 6-node cordless
>>> (pre-DEC) system with chargers/handsets all around the house. The 
>>> base
>>> station plugs into the ATA and all the handsets work as expected,
>>> including caller ID.
>>> 
>>> https://www.amazon.com/Grandstream-GS-HT802-Analog-Telephone-Adapter/dp/B01JH7MYKA
>>> for $40 is what I'd get today.  The single-port version isn't much
>>> cheaper, but perhaps you still like to use fax?
>>> 
>>> VoIP.ms has configuration examples for many devices. Easy to follow 
>>> if
>>> you don't want to become a telecom guru.
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