[ale] dd vs clonezilla to replace hard drive

Jim Kinney jim.kinney at gmail.com
Fri Dec 30 19:06:26 EST 2022


If the disk has a windows install on it, isn't that already a fail?

On Fri, Dec 30, 2022 at 4:00 PM Boris Borisov via Ale <ale at ale.org> wrote:

> If you clone disk that is almost to fail to new one and you don't want to
> waste  3-4  hours for installing necessary software.
>
> Talking Windows on production PC.
>
> On Fri, Dec 30, 2022, 13:59 Pete Hardie via Ale <ale at ale.org> wrote:
>
>> +1 for this. I've never had a case where a bitwise clone of a disk was
>> needed
>>
>> On Fri, Dec 30, 2022, 13:57 Jim Kinney via Ale <ale at ale.org> wrote:
>>
>>> Or do the best method and do a fresh install of your fav distro and use
>>> the old disk as your data backup and copy over your home for.
>>>
>>> Assuming your distro has a package manager, just export a list of
>>> installed packages to make sure you get them all in the new install.
>>>
>>> Sometimes a "drive migration" makes sense in a business setting. Other
>>> than just for practice, it's basically a time waster for personal stuff and
>>> especially if the new drive is much larger that the old drive.
>>>
>>> On Fri, Dec 30, 2022, 1:06 PM Narahari Lakshminarayana via Ale <
>>> ale at ale.org> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Why not run clozilla live CD and do this ?
>>>>
>>>> On Fri, Dec 30, 2022, 13:02 Bob Toxen via Ale <ale at ale.org> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> The critical thing is that the mounted partitions, especially the root
>>>>> partition (/) normally are changing.  You will end up with corrupted
>>>>> partitions unless you allow for this.
>>>>>
>>>>> First boot single user mode:
>>>>>
>>>>>   1. Reboot the system.
>>>>>
>>>>>   2. When it gets to the LILO stage hit the shift button to stop the
>>>>>      countdown to auto-boot.
>>>>>
>>>>>   3. Hit tab to see what kernels to boot and determine the right one,
>>>>>      say "Linux"
>>>>>
>>>>>   4. Key "Linux single" RETURN.
>>>>>
>>>>>   5. Login (to single user mode).
>>>>>
>>>>>   6. Do "mount" and umount all the disk file systems except the root
>>>>> fs.
>>>>>
>>>>>   7. Remount the root fs thusly:
>>>>>
>>>>>        mount -o remount,ro /dev/something /
>>>>>
>>>>>   8. Test that it really is mounted read only:
>>>>>      Do:
>>>>>          touch /root/foo
>>>>>      Expect:
>>>>>          Error: read only file system (or similar)
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>   If using other boot loaders do similar.  Alternatively, on some
>>>>> distros
>>>>>   you can do:
>>>>>     tcsh:
>>>>>        setenv RUNLEVEL S
>>>>>     sh/bash:
>>>>>        tcsh
>>>>>        env RUNLEVEL S
>>>>>
>>>>>   Do that dd very carefully as botching it trashes your existing disk:
>>>>>
>>>>>      dd bs=10240k if=/dev/your-source-disk of=/dev/new-disk-to-write-on
>>>>>      fsck -f of=/dev/new-disk-to-write-on
>>>>>
>>>>> You might want to expand the lask partition to enjoy your additional
>>>>> space by using GNU parted or similar:
>>>>>
>>>>>   https://www.gnu.org/software/parted/features.shtml
>>>>>
>>>>> Or you can add new partitions after the end of the last one with fdisk
>>>>> or similar.
>>>>>
>>>>> Check for typos before using above notes.
>>>>>
>>>>> Bob
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Mon, Dec 26, 2022 at 05:35:34PM -0700, Jim Kinney via Ale wrote:
>>>>> > Format the new one and rsync.
>>>>> > Unless this is a boot drive then dd the boot sector and /boot
>>>>> partition.
>>>>> >
>>>>> > On Mon, Dec 26, 2022, 5:29 PM Narahari Lakshminarayana via Ale <
>>>>> ale at ale.org>
>>>>> > wrote:
>>>>> >
>>>>> > > Friends:
>>>>> > >
>>>>> > > I bought a new SSD drive of the size 512GB the inland brand from
>>>>> > > Microcenter.
>>>>> > > I want to use that to replace my current laptop's 160 GB NON-SSD
>>>>> drive.
>>>>> > >
>>>>> > > Is it a good idea to use Clonezilla to make an img file of the
>>>>> current
>>>>> > > disk and restore to the new SSD ?
>>>>> > >
>>>>> > > OR
>>>>> > >
>>>>> > > Is it faster and best to run the dd command and replicate
>>>>> bit-by-bit of
>>>>> > > the current drive to the new SSD drive ?
>>>>> > >
>>>>> > > Please advise.
>>>>> > >
>>>>> > > -N
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