[ale] Remove systemd network handling

Jim Kinney jim.kinney at gmail.com
Thu Sep 23 07:44:54 EDT 2021


+1

Cats are the particles of entropy. Were it not for cats, the universe would have already crystalized into a solid instead of continuing to disperse and expand. 

Every usb charger cable in my house is enclosed in split loom shielding now.  Apparently the more expensive cables are quite tasty and/or confused with grass.

Systemd kicked the other init systems to the curb where they belong with the rest of the legacy cruft like mfm and rll drives. As soon as systemd can finally replace java, the world will truly be at peace. Assuming any usb cables still work...

On September 23, 2021 7:17:10 AM EDT, Solomon Peachy via Ale <ale at ale.org> wrote:
>On Thu, Sep 23, 2021 at 02:33:48AM -0400, Steve Litt via Ale wrote:
>> Handling things we don't need handled is what systemd is best known
>> for. Today it's networking. Tomorrow perhaps home directories. One
>day
>> it will grow its own package manager and systemd distros will drop
>> their own. In its five years, systemd has repeatedly solutioned
>things
>> that already had great solutions. As long as systemd is used at all,
>> one is constantly at risk of this kind of situation.
>
>Oh, FFS.
>
>"Systemd" didn't sneak into Alex's RPi in the dead of night and take 
>over networking.
>
>Debian developers made the decision to use systemd networking features.
> 
>Just like they made other decisions to avail themselves of other
>systemd 
>features. (I might add that exactly *two* of systemd's features are 
>mandatory [PID1 and journald]; the rest are *entirely optional* and up 
>to the distributor/integrator to enable or otherwise utilize. or not)
>
>Assuming this isn't a hardware problem (far from certain at this
>point!) 
>This is a *Debian* (or possibly Raspbian) bug, of the sort that should 
>never be caused by an update to -stable. It needs to be reported
>through 
>the proper channels (eg raspbian forums or debbugs) so it can be 
>addressed properly.  (And if he's not using -stable, then this is a 
>pretty mild bug vs what one can typically expect from -testing or 
>-unstable, and still needs reporting regardless!)
>
>Meanwhile, I have a RPiZero on the shelf behind me running bone stock 
>raspbian, datalogging from an i2c-attached environmental sensor. it's 
>been running for well over a *year* (over wifi) with no issues 
>whatsoever except for cat-induced power outages. Maybe the systemd
>cabal 
>snuck in a logic bomb that triggers at 5am every third weekday that 
>causes just the right RF emissions to make my cats murder the darkness.
> 
>Or maybe they just find USB cables tasty.
>
> - Solomon
>-- 
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