[ale] [EXTERNAL] Re: Re: [ALE] So the winner is?

Tue May 18 13:30:36 EDT 2021

FWIW, starting with SLE 15 SP3, openSUSE is going to be completely binary
compatible with the enterprise product so there's no need for a developer
subscription for SLE.

On Tue, May 18, 2021 at 1:20 PM Chuck Payne via Ale <ale at ale.org> wrote:

> Derek,
>
> 16 Seat is great, but I like to have more, and who's to say I can't renew
> without a cost. Plus, I like to get something Free.  I worry about
> licensing stuff on RHEL.
>
> DJ-Pfulio
>
> I use Debian ( No Ubuntu ) , but 90% of the servers are RHEL based. I
> support openSUSE ( member), but my bread and butter is as a Red Hat admin.
> The Dev Subscription is great, because CentOS didn't give you
> experience with Subscription Manager. Plus, I need to rebuild my Spacewalk
> Server. My old Spacewalk is on CentOS 7. Not political. I don't think I can
> install Spacewalk on RHEL, I will try. Licensing is my worry, not
> political. CentOS was great for using Dogtag, Keycloak)  FreeIPA, Foreman
> and Spacewalk to learn on. RHEL you have to have licenses for IDM (
> Dogtag/Keycloak/FreeIPA ) and Satellite ( Foreman/Spacewalk ).
>
> No Offense, Ubuntu still drives me up the wall because you do an
> upgrade and things break. On all my Small  Board Computer, I look to see if
> Armbian has a Debian base image to replace Ubuntu, just because doing
> simple upgrade on Ubuntu 18 and 20, broke things and I had to start over.
>
> Allen
>
> I use openSUSE 70% of my stuff, I use CentOS/Red Hat for the stuff I have
> to manage at work. Work doesn't take kindly to breaking stuff or spin up
> stuff. INFOSEC doesn't like it.
>
> Where I am working as a contractor, the overall agency made a deal with
> Oracle to replace Red Hat. At first they made it sound like a replacement
> for CentOS. They are serious about using Oracle. Ugh. Lucky, my department
> doesn't fall under the IT Group any more, we still use Red Hat. We were
> told that it's only kernel replacement and repo update. I might have to
> download Oracle to see what is diff. Just Oracle, skin itches, even when I
> use VirtualBox.
>
> James
>
> Again 70% openSUSE, in fact I am moving from LEAP to Tumbleweed.
> Tumbleweed has been super stable and I don't have work about updating. When
> I worked for Dell has been only time I managed SLE server with SAP. I loved
> it. I wish SuSE would give dev seats like Red Hat because then I would set
> up SLE in my lab.
>
>
> So why CentOS for me
>
> Keycloak/Dogtag/FreeIPA ( IDM )
> Foreman ( Satellite 6 )
> AWX ( Ansible Tower )
>
> Spacewalk ( Even though it Satellite 5 ) .
>
> These are my babies at work.
>
> To the group
>
> Uyuni? Hmmm I will have to look at it. Was surprise no one said anything
> about AlmaLinux. Or for that matter Rocky Linux.
>
> So, that why I was asking who the winners was because it seem the chooses
> are, Oracle, AlmaLinux, Rocky Linux, Red Hat ( Dev Account ), and now
> Uyuni. I was wanting to see what my peers are using.
>
> Good stuff guys, thanks .
>
>
> On Tue, May 18, 2021 at 11:15 AM Allen Beddingfield via Ale <ale at ale.org>
> wrote:
>
>> We are using SUSE Manager (which Uyuni is the upstream of) to manage
>> approximately 500 systems.  For licensing reasons, I have a separate Uyuni
>> installation for CentOS, OEL, and openSUSE.
>> I can't imagine trying to manage all of this without it!  I don't even
>> really do much with actually writing Salt states.  I can accomplish most
>> everything I need to do by registering everything as Salt minions, then
>> using the config channels for push configs.
>> We also use it for push-patching.
>> Allen B.
>>
>> --
>> Allen Beddingfield
>> Systems Engineer
>> Office of Information Technology
>> The University of Alabama
>> Office 205-348-2251
>> allen at ua.edu
>>
>>
>> ________________________________________
>> From: Ale <ale-bounces at ale.org> on behalf of James Taylor via Ale <
>> ale at ale.org>
>> Sent: Tuesday, May 18, 2021 10:10 AM
>> To: Atlanta Linux Enthusiasts - Yes! We run Linux!
>> Cc: James Taylor
>> Subject: [EXTERNAL] Re: [ale] Re:   [ALE] So the winner is?
>>
>> Have you had a chance to play with Uyuni much?
>> I did an installation a while back, but other needs intervened and I
>> never did any set up.
>> -jt
>>
>>
>> James Taylor
>> 678-697-9420
>> james.taylor at eastcobbgroup.com
>>
>>
>>
>> >>> Allen Beddingfield via Ale <ale at ale.org> 5/18/2021 10:25 AM >>>
>> That would be my go-to solution as well.  openSUSE Leap + Uyuni is a
>> great setup.  I assume this is for a RHEL clone requirement?
>>
>> --
>> Allen Beddingfield
>> Systems Engineer
>> Office of Information Technology
>> The University of Alabama
>> Office 205-348-2251
>> allen at ua.edu
>>
>>
>> ________________________________________
>> From: Ale <ale-bounces at ale.org> on behalf of James Taylor via Ale <
>> ale at ale.org>
>> Sent: Tuesday, May 18, 2021 9:23 AM
>> To: Atlanta Linux Enthusiasts - Yes! We run Linux!
>> Cc: James Taylor
>> Subject: [EXTERNAL] Re: [ale]  [ALE] So the winner is?
>>
>> Why not openSUSE Leap?
>> Do you need more Red Hat equivalence?
>>
>>
>>
>> James Taylor
>> 678-697-9420
>> james.taylor at eastcobbgroup.com
>>
>>
>>
>> >>> Allen Beddingfield via Ale <ale at ale.org> 5/18/2021 9:45 AM >>>
>> I don't like it, be we've been using OEL as a replacement for the handful
>> of CentOS things we have.
>>
>> --
>> Allen Beddingfield
>> Systems Engineer
>> Office of Information Technology
>> The University of Alabama
>> Office 205-348-2251
>> allen at ua.edu
>>
>>
>> ________________________________________
>> From: Ale <ale-bounces at ale.org> on behalf of Chuck Payne via Ale <
>> ale at ale.org>
>> Sent: Tuesday, May 18, 2021 8:43 AM
>> To: Atlanta Linux Enthusiasts - Yes! We run Linux!
>> Cc: Chuck Payne
>> Subject: [EXTERNAL] [ale] [ALE] So the winner is?
>>
>> Ok, Question for the group. I have a number of CentOS machines in my home
>> lab that I need to replace.  Thus the subject of my email, who is now the
>> true CentOS replacement?
>>
>> Has anyone tried it?
>>
>> I have a dev. account with Red Hat, they do give 16 seats, but I like to
>> use something to replace CentOS.
>>
>> --
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