[ale] Outdoor Wifi - quick summary

[jonhall80 at comcast.net]

I assume the Scout Building has electricity.

I am also confused why the Beer tent is thirty feet further away from the back wall of the building (480 ft) then the tree line (450 feet).   Is the beer tent underneath the trees at the far end of the field?   You might consider moving the beer tent closer.

I see two things that might be the Boy Scout Building at the back of the parking lot, but I am not sure if it is the thing with the Red Roof or the gray roof.  I assume the gray roof.

Here are some other thoughts:

(1) consider providing good WiFi permanently installed in the Boy Scout building.   This would involve putting CAT6 to the Boy Scout building and a nice wireless router OR having a router in the church and a WiFi extender in the Boy Scout building.

After that getting WiFi to the temporary beer tent would be a lot easier using the WiFi extender, IMHO, particularly if you moved the beer tent closer to the Boy Scout Building.

(2) If the Boy Scout building has electricity, that might be the place to put the WiFi Extender with directional antenna.

I call moving the beer tent closer to the WiFi the "Mountain and Muḥammad" solution.

md



> On 06/26/2021 12:12 PM Neal Rhodes via Ale <ale at ale.org> wrote:
> 
>  
> Thanks to all that replied.   My goal was to figure out the options, and 
> focus some other people's attention in a productive direction.   I do 
> NOT want to be the expert on this, as on the day, I'm busy doing sound 
> or playing music on stage.
> 
> I will quickly summarize the high points I've passed on.  Not to 
> preclude further comments from the ALE group, which I value.   But I'm 
> gonna let this simmer and see if some other folks pick up the ball.
> 
> 
> WHAT IS THE ENVIRONMENT? You can look at Google Maps for 1826 Killian 
> Hill road, Lilburn
>  From back window to the far tree line at back of field: 450ft (137 
> meters)
>  From back window to the scout building: 170ft (52 meters)
>  From scout building to back of field: 304ft (92meters)
> A straight line of Cat6e wire from back door, across the driveway on the 
> choir room side, to the trees, then along the side of the property, back 
> to the cross near the fire-pit: 500 ft ( 152 meters)
> 
> So from Back wall of building to where the Beer is sold is 480ft.
> 
> OPTIONS:
> A) Run a 500 foot Cat6e cable from the switch in the sanctuary, out the 
> choir room fire escape, out the Choir fire escape door, across the 
> driveway in a 1/2” PVC pipe,  with pieces of 2x4 slant cut on either 
> side to make a ramp to drive over, along the tree line, to the cross 
> near the fire pit, and place an access point there.  We would already 
> have power there for audio speaker.
> 
> B) Implement a Mesh network, using existing Virtual Studio Raspberry PI 
> processors, from the back window, to the scout building, to a unit at 
> the tent.   While possible, this leaves one more essential component of 
> Oktoberfest that Only Neal Understands.
> 
> C) Place a purpose built long range Access point outside, perhaps on the 
> classroom fire-escape wall, where it will be in the shade of the steps.  
>    This could be a permanent installation.   Some of these can be powered 
> by the CAT6 cable connection.  (POE)   Neal is not an expert.  I am 
> reading that some units claim coverage of up to 600 ft.  This would 
> include coverage of the rear parking lot.
> 
> 
> Possible products: This is by no means exhaustive; consider 
> https://www.mbreviews.com/best-outdoor-wifi-range-extender/ for more 
> details/ideas.
> 
> A) Ubiquiti Networks UAP-AC-LR-US 802.11ac Long Range Access Point  $109 
> https://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/1189144-REG/ubiquiti_networks_uap_ac_lr_us_802_11ac_long_range.html 
>    There are indoor, and indoor/outdoor flavors of these.  Some powered 
> by POE.
> 
> B) TP-LINK CPE210 N300 Outdoor Access Point $39 
> https://www.microcenter.com/product/482831/tp-link-cpe210-n300-outdoor-access-point 
> This unit appears to be designed to mount on an outside wall, and has 
> directional antenna which focus the signal in one direction only.
> 
> C) CPE510 5GHz 300Mbps 13dBi Outdoor $49 
> CPEhttps://www.tp-link.com/us/business-networking/outdoor-radio/cpe510/  
> Unclear what you get for the additional $10.
> 
> Now that I'm writing this, I'm wondering if the TP-Link units really 
> only work talking to each other, and not to a tablet out in the grass.
> 
> regards,
> 
> Neal
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