[ale] Outdoor Wifi - Water - The missing Detail?

[Alex Carver]

I was thinking FlowersByIrene, NotChinaPinkySwear, or IAmNotVlad

On 2021-07-02 10:10, Jim Kinney wrote:
> I vote for centerline of transmitter above head high and below tent roof.
> 
> Unless the tent roof is metal foil the attenuation is slight.
> 
> Be sure to set SID to something like 'gxvju3-7-nsatest3' and lock access to only allowed devices. 
> 
> On July 2, 2021 12:45:36 PM EDT, Alex Carver via Ale <ale at ale.org> wrote:
>> Yeah, plenty of documentation about the Fresnel Zone, interference
>> caused by intrusions into the Fresnel Zone, and calculators for finding
>> various performance metrics all over the innertubes. Every telecom
>> products or service company.
>>
>> Here's a fun online calculator from Ubiquiti that uses Google Maps and
>> graphically calculates the Fresnel Zone based on local terrain and the
>> particular device(s) you're using. Other than registering, usage is
>> free.  There are better ones online that also collect all of the local
>> terrain and topology from buildings, trees, etc. but those are for a
>> fee.  There's a few others that are basic online calculators that will
>> produce a KML file to import into Google Earth for visualization but
>> the
>> Ubiquiti one has live feedback on the map as you point at locations on
>> the Fresnel Zone diagram at the bottom. For probably the next best one
>> this calculator generates the KML file.
>> http://www.radiofresnel.com/
>>
>>
>> I own no stock or other financial interests in Ubiquiti, they just
>> happen to have cleaner interfaces and tools as you would expect from
>> former Apple employees.
>>
>>
>> On 2021-07-02 07:26, Neal Rhodes via Ale wrote:
>>> For our general edification, here is TP-Link's surprisingly
>> informative
>>> explanation.  I've never used their equipment, but I am coming to
>> like
>>> their documentation.
>>>
>>>        "If there are some obstacles during the way, you'd better
>> install
>>> the two CPEs higher than them.
>>>         https://www.tp-link.com/us/support/faq/907/
>>>         If it's impossible to bypass the trees and tent, the wireless
>>> signal maybe unstable and weak at the client side."
>>>
>>> On 2021-07-02 08:14, Phil Turmel via Ale wrote:
>>>> +1
>>>>
>>>> Complaining about reality is and always will be popular.  But don't
>>>> let it turn into *denying* reality.
>>>>
>>>> On 7/2/21 12:54 AM, Alex Carver via Ale wrote:
>>>>> Yes, that's pretty much what the Nanostations do.
>>>>>
>>>>> No matter who you chose to provide the equipment let me just offer
>> you
>>>>> this one bit of critical info:
>>>>>
>>>>> *Stop trying to cheat physics.*
>>>>>
>>>>> Put your APs up on poles.  No "IF we mount them", just do it. 
>> However
>>>>> you have to do it even if you just strap poles to ladders, on
>> tripods on
>>>>> the roof, whatever.  If you do this from the beginning and get them
>> up
>>>>> in the clear you will have relatively smooth operation.  If you try
>> to
>>>>> cheat and have obstacles in the way of the beam, you will have
>> headaches
>>>>> and maybe pitchforks.
>>>>>
>>>>> If you're being asked to do this then declare that pole mounts
>> shall be
>>>>> used and end the discussion.  If they don't like it, walk out and
>> let
>>>>> them figure it out for themselves.
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