[ale] How old is this list?

Tue Feb 2 16:56:01 EST 2021

I miss my huge, cue ball size trackball. Alas, it was a serial mouse. One of my cats would continue to try to steal the ball after he knocked it off my desk once and it rolled away. 

I once dug through the archives and found my first post. What a noob! Now I'm "the old guy". Wouldn't be where I am were it not for ALE. Would be a lot smaller if I would drink less ale 🤣

Linux is so much more than it used to be. I'm very glad Maddog gave that alpha to Linus! Stood in a line to get that first AMD Opteron cpu and mobo and had a working, mostly 64-bit install about 6 hours later. To bad that box got hit by lightning 5 weeks later. 

Good times. 

On February 2, 2021 12:48:59 PM EST, "Jon "maddog" Hall via Ale" <ale at ale.org> wrote:
>The Atlanta Linux Enthusiasts were a group of mostly university
>students who loved (GNU).  There are still web pages existent at
>ale.org that tell much of the history.
>
>The group founded in December of 1994, and in those days the first
>thing you did was form a mailing list, so I would assume that this list
>or something deeply connected to it started at that time.
>
>The Atlanta Linux Showcase started in 1996.  If I remember correctly it
>was held on the Georgia Tech Campus the first year, at the Apparel Mart
>downtown in 1998, The Cobb Galleria in 1999 and 2000.
>
>In 2001 the original organizers had all graduated and were busy with
>jobs, buying houses, etc. and the USENIX organization took it over.
>
>USENIX made four gigantic mistakes:
>
>o they renamed it to the Annual Linux Showcase
>o they moved it to Oakland, California in November, 2001
>o they tried to take a free (as in beer) event and charge 350 dollars
>for it
>o they allowed Osama Bin-Laden to crash airplanes into the World Trade
>Center on September 11, 2001
>
>When USENIX had not sold a single reservation within three weeks of the
>event, I convinced them to make it free and about 300-400 people showed
>up, but USENIX never produced another Linux only show.
>
>The ale.org web site is still there, with just a few 404s.   If you
>want to see what the original events were like there are even some
>pictures.
>
>It is nice that the mailing list is still active.   The Linux group
>that I started in 1994 and ran for ten years also has a mailing list,
>but it is much less active than yours.
>
>Congratulations to Tod for thinking about retiring....I still have too
>much fun and I will retire with my mouse still clutched in my cold,
>dead hands.
>
>Peace and love,
>
>maddog
>
>
>
>
>
>
>>     On 02/02/2021 10:50 AM Paul Manno via Ale <ale at ale.org> wrote:
>>      
>>      
>>     There are probably still some of us lurking here who were around
>when the list was first
>>     created and who helped create those Atlanta Linux Showcase shows.
>In either case, I am 
>>     not going to even try to think about when I started using either
>Linux or UNIX...  LoL
>>      
>> 
>>     On Tue, Feb 2, 2021 at 9:59 AM Larry Johnson via Ale <
>ale at ale.org mailto:ale at ale.org > wrote:
>> 
>>         > > My memory isn't great as I'm about to turn 70, but I
>first installed
>> >         Linux in early 1995, and seem to remember signing up for
>the list not
>> >         long thereafter.
>> > 
>> >         Which means I might have been a lurker for around 25 years.
>> > 
>> >         On 2/2/21 8:47 AM, Robert Reese via Ale wrote:
>> >         > Hi Tod,
>> >         >
>> >         > Monday, February 1, 2021, 12:19:30 PM, you wrote:
>> >         >
>> >         >> Am I misremembering? Because I think I got on this list
>when I was in grad school which would have been in the mid-late 90s.
>The reason I'm asking is that I am thinking of retiring. I was a really
>old grad student and now I'm retiring early. Even so. Is it possible
>I've been on this list my entire professional career?
>> >         > I'd say it's entirely possible. I joined in the late 90's
>also.
>> >         >
>> >         > Cheers,
>> >         > Robert Reese~
>> >         >
>> >         >
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>> >         > Robert~
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