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[Horkan Smith]

I went fvwm for ?? (at least a decade or so), then went a few years each w/ lxde and xfce4; switched to i3-gaps about a year ago and have been surpisingly happy with it.  Acrolinux had a much better sample config file than Ubuntu or Manjaro, which made it fairly painless to try out, and it has just the right combination of mouse-control-to-learn and key-control-for-speed, at least for me.

My historical pain points are the XF86Config mode lines, a lot of kernel reconfig/recompiles, X/Y/Zmodem/Kermit, and loading Xenix / Unix / Linux from floppies.


On Fri, Apr 02, 2021 at 03:16:14PM -0400, DJ-Pfulio via Ale wrote:
>tcsh = the "one true shell", because it had command completion.  But don't script with it! Odd behaviors.
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>I use fvwm.  My config file is based off the one from 1996. Ran back to fvwm when lxde got bloated. Tried to make due with openbox, but it was too limiting.
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>If you want someone to know pain, show them twm or i3.
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>The old-old guys used to say we didn't know pain, because we had both zeros AND ones. To impress them, write an editor with only zeros. That would be impressive.
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>On 2021-04-02 12:32, Chuck Payne via Ale wrote:
>> Does anyone remember back in the day when you want to use Gnome you had to install ICEWM???
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>> Staying up late to compile WindowMaker for 4 hours with the latest Xorg.
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>> Or compiling Linux Kernel so you can use an audio card or graphic card???
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>> Or changing your shell from sh to bash.??
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>> Kids today don't know the pain.????
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>> I tried to explain to my 16 years today Linux so easy to use, but there was a time you would sit and eat pizza and drink beer while praying to the compiler Gods that the new kernel you compiled does crap out, Or waking up to find out you were missing on a library that cause you to want to scream at the sky for wasting a weekend trying to compile.??
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>> I even fired up WindowMaker to show what we had back in the day thought it was cool, that it was the Winowmager we used with Xorg and the pain we had to do get X working.??
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>> That when KDE came along was so cool but was so heavy to use. Gnome wasn't a real WindowManger because you had to install something IceWM to use.??
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>> Hell, even the shells kids are using make life simple, have you played with ZSH. So pretty and easy to use, ugh. They need to feel the pain of sh and even worse tcsh.??
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>> Many of us, wear white beards, know the pain.?? ??
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