[ale] Suggestion for a Good Linux/Desktop

Bob bobabc at bellsouth.net
Tue Oct 20 19:45:57 EDT 2020


Hi David,

I like your ideas of trying to get a tty, and I do have another machine 
that I can ssh into my desktop.  Next time it happens, I'll try that.

--Bob



On 2020-10-20 7:36 p.m., David Jackson wrote:
> My first choice is usually to throw more memory at it.  Most of my
> desktop machines have about 32G of ram these days.  The usual memory
> culprit is Chrome.  But even then, it's only chrome that freezes.  If my
> cursor happened to be over chrome or somehow isn't free, I'll CTL-ALT-F2 to
> get to a TTY, run an htop, and of course, it's always some chrome page that
> has run amok with a memory leak or whatever.  So in that case I just
> killall chrome from the TTY, and then I can CTL-ALT back to the desktop and
> restart chrome a little more thoughtfully.  I guess that's my compromise
> for now.  I like the dev-tools chrome offers, and I have just tolerated the
> other goofiness of chrome in order to hang onto those dev-tools.
> 
> I use Chrome for lots and lots of stuff.  I've become entirely too
> dependent on it.  So many critical daily services are online, a browser is
> just the best way to use them, I guess.
> 
> When your desktop freezes, have you tried getting to a TTY?  Or ssh-ing
> into the box from another machine?  Just to see what's happening while it's
> still happening?  Chrome is *supposed* to manage its own memory, but if you
> can find the offending pages or apps through the Chrome task-manager (or
> whatever browser you're using), you can perhaps find out which web apps are
> leaking into your memory, if indeed that is the problem.
> 
> 
> On Tue, Oct 20, 2020 at 3:25 PM Bob via Ale <ale at ale.org> wrote:
> 
>>
>> Hi David,
>>
>> I agree.
>>
>> If mint freezes, I usually have too many applications open along with
>> too many tabs open in my browswer, and there is hardly any available
>> memory.
>>
>> --Bob
>>
>> On 2020-10-20 2:44 p.m., David Jackson via Ale wrote:
>>> Seems to me you've gotten some really good recommendations here.  But
>> Mint
>>> and Cinnamon are usually very stable.  Sometimes I've seen some
>> flickering
>>> in Cinnamon, which I attribute to some recent experiments in the source
>>> tree, but usually the production branch is very stable.  And Mint runs an
>>> LTS kernel on an LTS version of Ubuntu, so it's about as stable as it
>>> gets.  That combo should be working, so the freeze-crash problem seems
>>> unusual to me.  It seems to me the problem might have nothing to do with
>>> your choice of distro/desktop.  Mate is a smaller and less complicated
>>> desktop.  But still...  Have you checked some logs to find out what else
>> is
>>> happening leading up to your freeze-crash incidents?
>>>
>>>
>>> On Sun, Oct 18, 2020 at 7:42 AM Contact VPV via Ale <ale at ale.org> wrote:
>>>
>>>> All,
>>>>
>>>> I have been using Linux Mint with Cinnamon Desktop for the past few
>> years
>>>> as my daily driver. I am able to get most of the things. But there are a
>>>> few times the Cinnamon Desktop just freezes and crashes while I am in
>> the
>>>> middle of some work. This kind of throws me off. I have tried most of
>> the
>>>> tricks on the LM forums and nothing leads me to a proper solution.
>>>>
>>>> Now that, I am thinking of switching to some simple and clean desktop
>> that
>>>> does not crash on me. I had to use Mac for my work, so I will be
>> switching
>>>> between my Mac and Linux on a daily basis.  I had customized my
>> Cinnamon to
>>>> look and behave like Mac and was successful to an extent that I could
>>>> manage.
>>>>
>>>> Is there a recommendation for a distro/desktop that would help me?
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