[ale] [EXTERNAL] Re: In case you missed it
Jim Kinney
jim.kinney at gmail.com
Wed Oct 14 13:22:01 EDT 2020
I used Lotus Ami Pro word processor. One floppy. Worked like a champ.
On October 14, 2020 11:28:05 AM EDT, JEFFREY LIGHTNER via Ale <ale at ale.org> wrote:
>Lotus 123 was the up and coming "killer app" for IBM PCs and had
>supplanted VisiCalc so I never used the latter. I did have a personal
>Adam Computer (Coleco's offering back in the day) which had Coleco Calc
>installed. It was woefully painful to use compare to 123 on PC
>compatibles.
>
>Lotus made Symphony as an extension of 123 (it had the features of 123
>plus others not in 123). In the late 80s I had a boss bring SuperCalc
>in as he thought it was the greatest thing since sliced bread. I used
>to kid him that it was actually a communist plot to reduce America's
>technological superiority. :-)
>
>He told me once that there was nothing Lotus could do that SuperCalc
>couldn't. I had him pull up the copy of Symphony I'd installed on his
>PC then attach via serial to our UNIX based Property Management System
>using its built in terminal emulator. He admitted SuperCalc couldn't
>do that. - I didn't tell him 123 couldn't either. :-)
>
>There was another one around in those days I think from Borland. It
>seemed to be OK as well but I never saw the need to go away from Lotus
>until MS began giving Exel away. (Even then I resisted but eventually
>corporate America killed Lotus. Interestingly after that MS no longer
>saw the need to give away office software.)
>
>
>
>
>> On 10/09/2020 11:06 PM Jim Kinney via Ale <ale at ale.org> wrote:
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>> I used sc on a slackware install.
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>> On October 9, 2020 10:51:08 PM EDT, James Taylor via Ale
><ale at ale.org> wrote:
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>> > >
>> > However, now that I think of it, SuperCalc.
>> >
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>> > > > > > > > > James Taylor via Ale
><ale at ale.org> 10/9/2020 10:49 PM >>>
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>> > dBase II on an Osborne.
>> > Not a spreadsheet, but close enough for then.
>> >
>> >
>> > James Taylor
>> > 678-697-9420
>> > james.taylor at eastcobbgroup.com
>> >
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>> > > > > > > > > Scott Plante via Ale
><ale at ale.org> 10/9/2020 2:19 PM >>>
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>> > I had Visicalc on my TRS-80 Model 4! :-P
>> >
>> > On Thu, Oct 8, 2020 at 11:51 AM JEFFREY LIGHTNER via Ale
><ale at ale.org>
>> > wrote:
>> >
>> >
>> > > > > I got my start doing spreadsheets in Lotus 123
>Version 1.A when I was in
>> > > Accounting. One can do fairly sophisticated modeling
>and programming
>> > > within spreadsheets but even I knew when to move to a
>database tool.
>> > >
>> > > Paradox anyone? :D
>> > >
>> > > Back in the 80s if one submitted a hand written form
>with calculations on
>> > > it, any errors were immediately pointed out by at
>least one recipient..
>> > > However as things moved to spreadsheets printed out
>people would assume
>> > > they were completely correct because "computers don't
>make mistakes" and
>> > > not notice very obvious issues caused by bad formulas
>or just bad input.
>> > > GIGO is real.
>> > >
>> > >
>> > > On 10/07/2020 7:06 PM Jim Kinney via Ale
><ale at ale.org> wrote:
>> > >
>> > >
>> > > BWAHAHAHA!!!
>> > >
>> > > crash....
>> > >
>> > > On October 7, 2020 3:17:31 PM EDT, DJ-Pfulio via Ale
><ale at ale.org> wrote:
>> > >
>> > > But, but, but I can connect to the 5TB production
>Informix DB
>> > > with Excel using an ODBC driver. That's completely
>awesome!
>> > >
>> > > What? You mean when I do that, production transaction
>rates drop
>> > > 80%? No way! I don't believe you.
>> > >
>> > > /s
>> > >
>> > >
>> > > On 10/7/20 2:33 PM, Beddingfield, Allen via Ale
>wrote:
>> > >
>> > > I've been fighting the "a spreadsheet is not a
>database, and Access
>> > > is not much better" war for about 25 years.
>> > >
>> > >
>> > > From: Ale
>> > >
>> > > <ale-bounces at ale.org> on behalf of Pete Hardie via
>Ale <ale at ale.org>
>> > > Sent: Wednesday, October 7, 2020 1:26 PM To: Jim
>Kinney; Atlanta
>> > > Linux Enthusiasts Subject: [EXTERNAL] Re: [ale] In
>case you missed
>> > > it
>> > >
>> > > Once again, I repeat my frequent assertion that a
>spreadsheet is not
>> > > a database, and your admin assistant probably does
>not have a
>> > > CS/Programming degree
>> > >
>> > > On Wed, Oct 7, 2020 at 2:19 PM Jim Kinney via Ale
>> > > <ale at ale.org<mailto:ale at ale.org>> wrote: Excel blew
>up in the faces
>> > > of UK healthcare.
>> > >
>> > >
>> > >
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