[ale] Connecting to r-pi

Alex Carver agcarver+ale at acarver.net
Thu Oct 25 13:50:12 EDT 2018


Because we still had printers that used the same codes and it's easier
to use the same file for both printer and screen rather than one format
for printers and another for printers?

On 2018-10-25 07:44, Charles Shapiro via Ale wrote:
> I Am Enlightened!
> 
> Nonetheless, I question Mr. Gates's decision to include the LF in a
> machine primarily connected to a video monitor.
> 
> -- CHS
> 
> 
> On Wed, Oct 24, 2018 at 8:39 PM Raj Wurttemberg via Ale <ale at ale.org
> <mailto:ale at ale.org>> wrote:
> 
>     You guys talking about teletypes brings back some memories.   These
>     are the computers (AN/UYK-7) I worked on when I was in the Navy and
>     you'll notice the teletype to the far left. It's a combined
>     teletype, dual mag-tape, and paper-tape reader.  I absolutely hated
>     that teletype. Can't say that I liked the computer that much more. HAHA!
> 
>     https://ru.wikipedia.org/wiki/AN/UYK-7#/media/File:%D0%9A%D0%BE%D0%BC%D0%BF%D1%8C%D1%8E%D1%82%D0%B5%D1%80_UYK-7.jpg
> 
>     Kinda funny that this picture is on the Russian Wiki page. Doh!
> 
>     /Raj
> 
>     -----Original Message-----
>     From: Ale <ale-bounces at ale.org <mailto:ale-bounces at ale.org>> On
>     Behalf Of Alex Carver via Ale
>     Sent: Wednesday, October 24, 2018 6:54 PM
>     To: Scott Plante <splante at insightsys.com
>     <mailto:splante at insightsys.com>>; Atlanta Linux Enthusiasts
>     <ale at ale.org <mailto:ale at ale.org>>
>     Subject: Re: [ale] Connecting to r-pi
> 
>     The CR also permitted the return so a row could be double struck for
>     bolding or multipart forms that required double striking to ensure
>     print-through. Not all teletypes were so slow but yes sliding back
>     along the row would be slightly slower than just rolling the paper
>     up one line.
> 
>     Additionally the independent LF allowed typing vertically (with a
>     backspace after the LF) as well as staggered lines. The two
>     independent control characters were quite valuable for basic
>     typesetting.
> 
>     On 2018-10-24 13:03, Scott Plante wrote:
>     > If you're inclined to believe Wikipedia, the early teletypes would
>     > actually perform a carriage return to the left and line feed the
>     paper
>     > up one row on a LF, but the CR was necessary because of timing--it
>     > took longer than the gap between characters to physically return the
>     > print head so they added the CR to allow enough time. Apparently they
>     > sometimes had to add NULs as well. Even some CRT terminals took too
>     > long to scroll all the text up. Apparently they didn't have flow
>     > control back then.
>     >
>     > I used to have a TRS-80 and a "Gorilla Banana" printer. I could never
>     > get the flow control to work with it, and had to write a program to
>     > print stuff. It would manually pause a fraction of a second after
>     each
>     > line before sending the next one to the port. Those were the days! ha
>     > ha
>     >
>     > https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Newline
>     > http://mrweese.blogspot.com/2007/06/gorilla-banana.html
>     >
>     > --
>     > Scott Plante
>     >
>     > ----------------------------------------------------------------------
>     > --
>     > *From: *"Alex Carver via Ale" <ale at ale.org <mailto:ale at ale.org>>
>     > *To: *ale at ale.org <mailto:ale at ale.org>
>     > *Sent: *Wednesday, October 24, 2018 3:34:26 PM
>     > *Subject: *Re: [ale] Connecting to r-pi
>     >
>     > You do realize CRLF is older than Gates having come from the exact
>     way
>     > a teletype machine works, right? CR and LF are distinct functions and
>     > *nix took a lazy approach to combine the two into a single character.
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