[ale] [systemd] Boot speed

[Damon L. Chesser]

Least you think I am on the systemd side:  I agree with what you wrote.  
My Arch system takes for ever (subjectively) to boot, maby 20 to 30 sec 
AFTER I give the encrypted password, then I have to wait what feels like 
an eternity to get my NIC to find an IP and initialize (wither or not 
static or DHCP is used).  I am soooooo glad systemd fixed that boot 
speed issue.  OTHO, eh.  Not really that big of a deal for me to dig 
into it and fix it.


On 02/17/2018 07:56 PM, Steve Litt via Ale wrote:
> On Sat, 17 Feb 2018 08:58:22 -0500
> leam hall via Ale <ale at ale.org> wrote:
>
>> Possibly separating this discussion out into component parts. We'll
>> see how it goes.
>>
>> I don't see boot speed as a game changer for systemd, even if it is a
>> lot faster.
> If your computer is an entertainment appliance receiving live
> broadcasts, a 2 second boot is better than a minute boot. If you're
> spinning up hundreds of VMs or containers, the boot time of those
> matters. If your boot takes 10 minutes, that's unacceptable.
> Otherwise...
>
>> If you're booting your desktop then you're probably
>> already used to "push the power button, hit the head, grab some
>> coffee" routine. If you system isn't up by then maybe there's an
>> issue.
> Zactly!
>
>> For servers, if you really want uptime, why aren't you redundant?
>> Reboot time is again not an issue if the service stays up.
> In addition, just because Steve Litt once experimentally got systemd
> to boot in 2 seconds doesn't mean that's the normal state of affairs.
> Reports I hear on various mailing lists have healthy systemd systems
> booting in about 20 seconds, and unhealthy ones taking two minutes.
>
> But back to your initial question about boot speed being a game change:
> Boot speed being a game changer is an existential necessity to the
> systemd cabal because systemd's raison d'être is efficiency, and once
> the computer is stably up, the init system has little to no effect on
> efficiency. The systemd cabal is forced to wow and praise over the boot
> speed, all the while saying "and many other things too", because, of
> course, you're right: Few care whether boot takes 30 seconds or a
> minute, and all too often it's the runit system that takes 30 seconds.
>   
> SteveT
>
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