[ale] Automation tools...

[Jerald Sheets]

That’s correct… that simply isn’t true.

Puppet, Chef, and Ansible are the kings of the automation heap.  SALT users remind me of rabid sports fans.  Their last place team always fills the stadium.

I appreciate Python and the power it represents, but SALT just doesn’t have market penetration at all.  Further, in the world of Microservices, Cloud, and ZTN, you better have some Ruby-ish chops.  You really have to change the culture of your whole department to move to a tool like SALT.  Not saying it isn’t capable, it just seems to cut across the direction of most of the rest of systems work going on today.

These are opinions and observations based on personal interaction with other teams across the country.  Not intended to pinch the butt of your particular favorite $tool.


—j



> On Dec 20, 2018, at 8:41 AM, Raj Wurttemberg via Ale <ale at ale.org> wrote:
> 
> Thanks for the insight everyone. This came about because my boss mentioned
> that "most everyone" was going the direction of Salt and my experience and
> data showed that was not true.   I like it that Ansible does not use agents
> because some of my government customers absolutely do not want any agents on
> their servers, but I also like Salt because although it does require an
> agent. It is handy to see which agents are running and also not to have to
> worry about the local root password in each customer environment.
> 
> Thanks,
> /Raj
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> 
> We are using SUSE Manager.  Essentially, SUSE has forked and heavily
> modified Spacewalk as a graphical interface for Saltstack.  It is the best
> of both worlds... I can write Salt code by hand if I want, or just use the
> GUI to make state channels the old Spacewalk way, but it is essentially just
> building an sls under the hood out of the choices selected in the GUI.
> If you don't want to use Salt at all, the old Spacewalk functionality is
> still there and 100% usable.
> It also has built in patch management.
> 
> Allen B.
> 
> 
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