[ale] Replacing shared host?
Beddingfield, Allen
allen at ua.edu
Mon Dec 17 10:56:21 EST 2018
Whatever. All I know is that I noticed one of them was down...checked
the others, and some were there/some not. Logged into the control
panel, and they were powered off. I couldn't power them on...contact
them, got a "we are working on it" response...then later an offer to
restore from an older backup.
I declined.
Allen B.
On 12/17/18 9:54 AM, Simba via Ale wrote:
> That's odd since their hardware is all redundant. I'm a skeptic any time
> someone has some outrageous story about Digital Ocean's failures because
> every time the story turns out to be not what it seemed upon digging
> deeper.
>
> They're considered one of the best VPS providers in the world today, top
> 5 definitely, maybe even top 3. Personally I think they are #1 when you
> compare their price to AWS and GCP. They didn't reach that position by
> screwing people in the way you've described. Cases like yours, if
> they're ever real, are less than 1% and it's strange how every time
> someone mentions Digital Ocean, someone is there to talk about their
> fractional-percentile horrifying experience. So I don't believe you.
>
> And you're right, you should always keep your own backups.
>
> Simba Lion - https://tailpuff.net
> https://keybase.io/simbalion
>
> "Why is a raven like a writing desk?"
>
> On 12/17/18 10:49 AM, Beddingfield, Allen via Ale wrote:
>> According to them, hardware failure.
>> I had backups, so no data lost.
>> Allen B.
>>
>> On 12/17/18 9:46 AM, Simba via Ale wrote:
>>> Uh huh, and can you offer any more detail about how your VMs were lost?
>>> Was it user error?
>>>
>>> Being able to load your own ISO is a nice feature, and one that Digital
>>> Ocean recently started to offer. Personally I don't find it extremely
>>> useful, since I only use Debian.
>>>
>>> Simba Lion - https://tailpuff.net
>>> https://keybase.io/simbalion
>>>
>>> "Why is a raven like a writing desk?"
>>>
>>> On 12/17/18 10:38 AM, Beddingfield, Allen via Ale wrote:
>>>> 2-3 years ago, if I remember correctly.
>>>> The major selling factor for me with Vultr is the ability to load my own
>>>> OS. Digital Ocean doesn't support openSUSE (or didn't the last time I
>>>> checked), and I can just load it from ISO on Vultr.
>>>>
>>>> Allen B.
>>>>
>>>> On 12/17/18 9:35 AM, Simba via Ale wrote:
>>>>> When was that? I've been using them since 2013 and I've never
>>>>> experienced more professional treatment from a low cost tech service.
>>>>> I run dozens of servers and have had zero issues. Performance is
>>>>> consistent and fast.
>>>>>
>>>>> And you dont pay more for less. That's what AWS and GCP are. Vultr and
>>>>> D.O. are basically the same in terms of price.
>>>>>
>>>>> On December 17, 2018 10:32:16 AM EST, "Beddingfield, Allen via Ale"
>>>>> <ale at ale.org> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> After Digital Ocean lost two of my VMs, and all they could says
>>>>> was
>>>>> "sorry, here's some account credits", I lost faith in them and
>>>>> moved to
>>>>> Vultr.
>>>>> Either way, I keep my own backups, because I don't trust anyone
>>>>> else to
>>>>> do it.
>>>>>
>>>>> Allen B.
>>>>>
>>>>> On 12/17/18 9:20 AM, Simba wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> Vultr is fine for hobby stuff but they don't seem professional
>>>>> and if
>>>>> yer project is for business I would recommend Digital Ocean
>>>>> instead.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On December 17, 2018 9:18:03 AM EST, "Beddingfield, Allen via
>>>>> Ale"
>>>>> <ale at ale.org> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> I highly recommend Vultr. Never had an issue, and they are one
>>>>> of the
>>>>> few that will allow you to upload your own ISO and
>>>>> interactively
>>>>> install
>>>>> the OS. If you don't want to do that, you can use one of their
>>>>> images.
>>>>>
>>>>> I use Vultr for VM hosting, Enom for DNS, and I have a paid
>>>>> account with
>>>>> ProtonMail for e-mail (got tired of trying to run my own mail
>>>>> server).
>>>>>
>>>>> All have been good experiences.
>>>>> Allen B.
>>>>>
>>>>> On 12/17/18 6:53 AM, Leam Hall via Ale wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> Hey all, I need to move into this century. After almost 20
>>>>> years
>>>>> with
>>>>> the same shared host, the tech support that has been farmed
>>>>> out
>>>>> to keeps
>>>>> making the service useless.
>>>>>
>>>>> My needs are pretty simple, a few web pages. In theory I'll
>>>>> grow
>>>>> to PHP
>>>>> 7 and MySQL in the back end, but right now I need to write web
>>>>> pages and
>>>>> scp them up to the host. I have some time to move things over,
>>>>> thus time
>>>>> to learn something if necessary. I do not want to run a the
>>>>> server in my
>>>>> house.
>>>>>
>>>>> Is it time to move to something like Digital Ocean
>>>>> droplets, or
>>>>> AWS?
>>>>> Long term it looks like DO costs more and you get less, but I
>>>>> just don't
>>>>> know yet.
>>>>>
>>>>> Thoughts and recommendations?
>>>>>
>>>>> Leam
>>>>>
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