[ale] Future-proofing a house for networking -- what to run?
Derek Atkins
derek at ihtfp.com
Mon Sep 11 15:30:35 EDT 2017
Jim,
Yes, I know the US-24-500W is a 24-port switch. Kyle recommended an
8-port, which doesn't help me.
The PoE switch is, as I just said, for my PoE IP Camera network. My main
network is separate. I cannot leverage any open ports on this switch for
my main network (and I doubt the IP cameras suppose VLANs).
I've already got a Cisco SG200-50 for my main switch. For the few
additional PoE devices I have (currently: 2) I can just use standard PoE
power injectors. They cost $17 each, which is much less than the
additional cost of a PoE capable switch. So if I need to add a second AP,
I'll happily pay another $17 vs having to spend an additional $100-200 for
a (second) PoE-capable switch.
I would also prefer to limit the number of switches if I can to limit the
required cross-connects (which of course become bottlenecks).
-derek
On Mon, September 11, 2017 3:16 pm, Jim Kinney wrote:
> That's a 24-port 1G PoE switch. It provides power to 24 downstream
> devices like phones, small switches and with some hacking, systems.
> That particular switch is pretty useful for being a gateway switch for
> other Ubiquiti WAPs (most all run on PoE).
> I have this for home wireless:
> https://www.amazon.com/Ubiquiti-Networks-802-11ac-Dual-Radio-UAP-AC-PRO
> -US/dp/B015PRO512/ref=sr_1_1?s=electronics&ie=UTF8&qid=1505157073&sr=1-
> 1&keywords=ubiquiti%2BWAP&th=1
> Due to a large, sheetmetal duct in the center of the house between
> floors, there's a shadow in coverage that's not good. That $130 is a
> low cost way to slap a second unit in the ceiling on the top floor to
> fill in that shadow.
> Just search Amazon for Ubiquiti. Lots of toys at very good prices.
> On Mon, 2017-09-11 at 14:58 -0400, Derek Atkins wrote:
>> Kyle,
>>
>> The Unifi US-24-500W is $523 on Amazon. How is that
>> "inexpensive"? I
>> said I needed 16-24 ports, so not sure how an 8-port helps me. I do
>> admit
>> I didn't specify "rackmount" in my OP -- Mea Culpa. But I'd rather
>> find
>> something more in the $200 range for that purpose (a physically
>> private
>> network of IP security cameras).
>>
>> Yes, I do have an Edgerouter for my main router, which replaced my
>> Routerboard because the RB750 couldn't keep up with my Gigapower
>> network.
>> I mostly like it.
>>
>> Honestly I kind of like my DAP-2660 AC1200 AP and see little reason
>> to
>> switch. It's worked quite well for me.
>>
>> Thanks,
>>
>> -derek
>>
>> On Mon, September 11, 2017 2:36 pm, Kyle Brieden wrote:
>> > EdgeOS, and absolutely LOVE my ubiquity gear. I got the Unifi 8
>> > port
>> > PoE switch, Unifi Security Gateway, and the WAP that support
>> > 802.11ac.
>> > It has literally changed my home networking. Can't recommend it
>> > enough.
>> > I got all 3 of those seriously high grade boxes for about the
>> > same
>> > price you pay for a consumer router that supports 802.11ac.
>> >
>> > HIGHLY recommend.
>> >
>> > +1
>> >
>> >
>> > ---
>> > Very respectfully,
>> > Kyle Brieden
>> >
>> > On 11-09-2017 11:19, Jim Kinney wrote:
>> > > On September 11, 2017 10:04:42 AM EDT, Derek Atkins <derek at ihtfp.
>> > > com>
>> > > wrote:
>> > > > Jim,
>> > > >
>> > > > On Mon, September 11, 2017 9:51 am, Jim Kinney wrote:
>> > > > > 10G multimode with lc connectors.
>> > > >
>> > > > is it "easy" to build these? Are there LC connector keystone
>> > > > jacks
>> > > > available?
>> > > >
>> > > > > Unless you _really_ are forward looking and install 100G.
>> > > >
>> > > > OM3 fiber looks like it will get to 40/100G
>> > > >
>> > > > > Otherwise install conduit and spare pull strings. That really
>> > > > > future-proofs an install.
>> > > > >
>> > > > > I would plan for a 1" conduit with a single cat6, one rg6,
>> > > > > one low
>> > > >
>> > > > voltage
>> > > > > line (music) and a pull string.
>> > > >
>> > > > I'm not sure this is REALLY an option for me.I feel it is
>> > > > certainly a
>> > > > more
>> > > > expensive option vs just running a bunch of cables now.
>> > > >
>> > > > > Spend money on a distribution center that all these lines
>> > > > > start from.
>> > > >
>> > > > Good
>> > > > > 10G switch, powered cable splitter, good remote adjustable
>> > > > > amp for
>> > > >
>> > > > music
>> > > > > control.
>> > > >
>> > > > Yes. My current house has a 96-port RJ45 patch panel (2/3
>> > > > full). I
>> > > > would
>> > > > definitely repeat that. Similar with audio -- I've got a 6-
>> > > > zone amp
>> > > > (although I dont think my current one is remotely adjustable --
>> > > > but I
>> > > > just
>> > > > adjust via iTunes).
>> > > >
>> > > > I'm still researching TV/HDMI distribution systems....
>> > > >
>> > > > Oh, and trying to find a good 16-24-port PoE (10/)100/1000
>> > > > switch.
>> > >
>> > > Look at Ubiquity. They have a selection of PoE switches in
>> > > various
>> > > port counts and rather affordable pricing. I've got a WAP and a
>> > > 16
>> > > port 10G switch from them. Pretty happy with both. Control
>> > > software is
>> > > closed source. Hardware looks like it may run the open switch
>> > > software
>> > > whose name escapes me.
>> > >
>> > >
>> > > > -derek
>> > > >
>> > > > > On September 11, 2017 9:33:47 AM EDT, Derek Atkins <derek at iht
>> > > > > fp.com>
>> > > > > wrote:
>> > > > > > Hi Alers,
>> > > > > >
>> > > > > > If you had the ability to future-proof your house (imagine
>> > > > > > open
>> > > >
>> > > > studs,
>> > > > > > so you could run anything you wanted), what would you
>> > > > > > run. Assume a
>> > > > > > max
>> > > > > > of 6 cables per drop?
>> > > > > >
>> > > > > > Last time I ran 4x Cat6A and 2x RG6. However I'm never
>> > > > > > using both
>> > > >
>> > > > RG6
>> > > > > > F-connectors, so I figured I could replace that with
>> > > > > > something else.
>> > > > > > And before you ask, yes, I *AM* using all 4 RJ45 connectors
>> > > > > > in some
>> > > >
>> > > > of
>> > > > > > my drops (and in one place I wish I had MORE Rj45). So,
>> > > > > > what else
>> > > > > > should I run?
>> > > > > >
>> > > > > > My current theory is 4x Cat6A, 1x RG6, and 1x Fiber.
>> > > > > >
>> > > > > > However I'm not sure what kind of "fiber" to run, nor what
>> > > > > > kind of
>> > > > > > connector I should use.
>> > > > > >
>> > > > > > Any suggestions or recommendations?
>> > > > > >
>> > > > > > -derek
>> > > > > >
>> > > > > > --
>> > > > > > Derek Atkins 617-623-3745
>> > > > > > derek at ihtfp.com www.ihtfp.com
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