[ale] [barely OT] Containerization

Michael H. Warfield mhw at wittsend.com
Tue Oct 24 10:03:24 EDT 2017


On Sat, 2017-10-21 at 06:03 -0400, DJ-Pfulio wrote:
> Think services for a container.  MongoDB is good.  MongoDB with any
> GUI tool
> inside the container is bad.

No it's not.  I use containers with NX remote desktops and GUI
connections there run like a top.  Why is MongoDB with a GUI tool
inside of a container bad?

Mike

> Have you looked at vagrant for virtualbox automation?

> Or just have a development server farm that devs remote into for GUI
> work.
> Deployed that for a very large customer years ago.
> 
> I looked up RStudio - it can be controlled by a web browser
> interface.  I'd use
> that. "in a browser connected to RStudio Server"
>   https://www.rstudio.com/products/RStudio/#Server
> 
> On 10/20/2017 04:27 PM, Jeff Hubbs wrote:
> > OK, everyone -
> > 
> > I've seen a lot of talk about Docker go by. I am needing to look at
> > engineering
> > some "distributed modular containerization" of apps and perhaps
> > whole OS
> > instances. I just had a situation develop on the job where a
> > MongoDB instance
> > needed to be available for casual use (i.e., for education
> > purposes) on Windows
> > laptops. I was able to generate a tiny Linux VM to do that; set up
> > for use in
> > VirtualBox using a host-only adapter, the instance was nice and
> > contained (by
> > default MongoDB goes in with no authentication set up at all - it's
> > just
> > *there*). But trafficking in whole VMs seems like a lot of weight
> > to throw
> > around, even though I managed to get this particular VM's export
> > file down to 1
> > gig, There are also lots of guardrails to smack into, like the
> > limited size of
> > the virtual disk, and other things like making sure the "guest
> > addition" daemon
> > that makes sure the clock stays synced and so forth that I would
> > just as soon
> > not have to deal with.
> > 
> > What I envision is something where MongoDB lives in one container
> > and, say,
> > another container with RStudio with all the needed packages,
> > extensions, etc.
> > and yet another with such-and-such Python version and all its
> > intended packages
> > preloaded can be flown into a relatively unmodified OS instance
> > (assume Windows
> > or OS X) and networked together so that the apps in the containers
> > can see each
> > other; perhaps just one needs to be able to reach out to the host
> > machine's
> > network or possibly other machines on the host machine's network
> > needs to able
> > to see one or more of the containers. Is Docker a fit for what I'm
> > thinking of,
> > or would something else be, or do I need to modify my thinking?
> > 
> > - Jeff
> > 
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