[ale] [Rant] Fedora Package Caching

Joey Kelly joey at joeykelly.net
Wed Oct 4 21:41:56 EDT 2017


On 10/04/17 18:07, Jim Kinney wrote:
> Gpl v3 closes the code as a service loophole. V2 allowed a service provider to use altered gpl code to do things for customers on the the providers server hardware. The service providers never provided any code to customers and thus never triggered the release of their changes. Google has been adamant that if the kernel is changed to a v3 license, they will fork the last v2 release and go dark.

I don't care/trust google, but there are a few of us little guys that
think GPL v3 was a mistake. RMS should have stopped while he was ahead.

AGPL is even further down the path... why would anyone ever want to use
further-encumbered (it works both ways, you know...) code in their products?

--Joey

> 
> Recently, it was reported that Google is working on their own custom kernel.
> 
> On October 4, 2017 5:49:57 PM EDT, DJ-Pfulio <djpfulio at jdpfu.com> wrote:
>> GPLv3 still lets facebook, google, twitter use the code, provided they
>> don't
>> ever distribute it, giving nothing back.
>>
>> The AGPL means they would have to share, regardless.
>>
>> OTOH, as a business person, I'd stay away from all GPL code and stick
>> with BSD,
>> Apache, MIT, and similar licensed code.   Like Apple, Roku, and others
>> have done.
>>
>> It isn't my place to tell any developer which license they should
>> release their
>> code under and I'm appreciative for all the work BSD, Apache, and MIT
>> licensed
>> code has provide to lots of people over the years.
>>
>> On 10/04/2017 05:13 PM, Jim Kinney wrote:
>>> I like GPL v3
>>>
>>> On Wed, 2017-10-04 at 17:07 -0400, DJ-Pfulio wrote:
>>>> Why not the AGPL?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On 10/04/2017 03:43 PM, Joey Kelly wrote:
>>>>> On 10/04/17 14:06, Jim Kinney wrote:
>>>>>> Yikes! And on a LINUX group, even :-( FreeBSD is the abomination
>> license and
>>>>>> code that allowed Apple to Embrace and Extend to become the
>> triple-high
>>>>>> walled garden that they are. 
>>>>> <snip>
>>>>>> It's not FreeBSD's fault except for the license that says "Here!
>> Have fun!
>>>>>> It's OK to be a profiteering dick of the work of others. We don't
>> care.". 
>>>>> Full disclosure: I write code and always use GPL v2 if I release
>> it, no
>>>>> exceptions: https://github.com/mmlj4 (among other places). 
>>>>
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