[ale] OT: Cell Phone recs Was Re: Android secondary security
Kyle Brieden
kyle at txmoose.com
Fri Apr 14 10:17:33 EDT 2017
I sincerely believe with every fiber of my being that BoA is one of the
worst companies to ever have existed, but that's actually kind of cool.
It's like using keepass/lastpass for your CC numbers. I wonder why more
banks don't do this?
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Very respectfully,
Kyle Brieden
On 14-04-2017 09:34, Lightner, Jeffrey wrote:
> Further OT but this is why I like Bank of America’s Shopsafe.
>
> Rather than giving people my real credit card number I can give them a
> temporary number generated in Shopsafe.
>
> Moreover I can set a limit and an expiration on the card of as little
> as 2 months. If I expect to pay $33 I might set the limit to $40 to
> allow for taxes or other charges not immediately apparent but they
> can’t charge more than the limit I set.
>
> Another benefit I like in Shopsafe is that once the temporary number
> it has been charged by any one merchant it can’t be processed by any
> other merchant. This means if the site I input the number on gets
> hacked right after I do the input and the merchant has already charged
> me (as is usually the case) the hacker gets nothing for his effort.
> One can generate multiple Shopsafe numbers to use at different
> merchants.
>
> This is also great for “services” that require you to give them a
> card for “automatic renewals”. If you don’t want the automatic
> renewal you set the Shopsafe number to expire before merchant’s
> renewal date and the “automatic” will be rejected later. (Of
> course you also set the limit to only allow the one charge so if they
> “automatic” on you before the expiration it will also fail.)
>
> FROM: ale-bounces at ale.org [mailto:ale-bounces at ale.org] ON BEHALF OF
> Chuck Payne
> SENT: Friday, April 14, 2017 8:34 AM
> TO: atlanta linux enthusiasts
> SUBJECT: Re: [ale] OT: Cell Phone recs Was Re: Android secondary
> security
>
> So a warning about Freedom Pop. RUN away now. So I order one sim at
> .99 cent and they asked if I like another, I said ok, not thinking. I
> was out of town. I came home to three sims. I place one in my son
> smart watch only to find out its 2G, Nothing works it, I told my son
> who is 12 if he can manage now to break would replace with a better
> watch. So I didn't do anything with them.
>
> Well, today I open my bank account to find, not one, not two, but
> three charges for $33/for each sim. WOW, I only activated one. I am
> working on cancelling, I can't afford $100 buck a month.
>
> Anyway, just wanted to share this.
>
> On Mon, Mar 13, 2017 at 6:26 PM, Boris Borisov <bugyatl at gmail.com [1]>
> wrote:
>
> My kid's BLU phone is Android non LTE. But I think is still 4G but
> EV-DO standard which development apparently is abandoned in favor of
> LTE.
>
> On Fri, Mar 10, 2017 at 10:20 AM, Derek Atkins <derek at ihtfp.com [2]>
> wrote:
>
> I think a bunch of the BLU devices are 3G-only (no LTE). I know mine
> is, but it's also a few years old now.
>
> d-erek
>
> Greg Clifton <gccfof5 at gmail.com [3]> writes:
>
>> And speaking of the Devil, I just received an email from Microcenter
> with an
>> Unlocked GSM BLU for $109. By the specs in the link below, no
> mention of LTE
>> support and a little light on RAM, but pretty cheap.
>>
>>
> http://email.microcentermedia.com/1e4af319elayfousiawfkk6qaaaaaaummcztaz36whmyaaaaa/C?V=bF9pbmRleAEBQ09OVEFDVF9JRAE0OTEyNDY1NDE4AXByb2ZpbGVfaWQBMTM2ODEzNTI3MAF6aXBfY29kZQEBRVFVSUZBWF9DQU1QQUlHTl9JRAFFNDE0MAFTVE9SRQE0MQFFUVVJRkFYX0FDVElWSVRZX0lEAUU0MTQwMDAwMQFfV0FWRV9JRF8BMjE3MDQ0NTM5AV9QTElTVF9JRF8BOTczMDI3NQFnX2luZGV4AQFlbWFpbF9hZGRyAWdjY2ZvZjVAZ21haWwuY29tAVdFQl9JRAEBX1NDSERfVE1fATIwMTcwMzA5MDk0NTAwAUNBTVBBSUdOTkFNRQFlTmV3cyBTcGVjaWFsIEVkIDIwMTcwMzA5AXByb2ZpbGVfa2V5AWdjY2ZvZjVAZ21haWwuY29t&Lf8LnnpaDLj5PewpFLTY+Q
> [4]
>>
>> On Thu, Mar 9, 2017 at 8:35 PM, Derek Atkins <derek at ihtfp.com [5]>
> wrote:
>>
>> I've got a BLU phone running Android.
>> I use it as a hot-spot when I travel internationally.. get a
> foreign sim
>> and away I go.
>>
>> -derek
>>
>> Sent from my mobile. Please excuse any typos.
>>
>> ----- Reply message -----
>> From: "Greg Clifton" <gccfof5 at gmail.com [6]>
>> To: "Atlanta Linux Enthusiasts" <ale at ale.org [7]>
>> Subject: [ale] OT: Cell Phone recs Was Re: Android secondary
> security
>> Date: Thu, Mar 9, 2017 8:28 PM
>>
>> I was under the impression that all BLU phones run Windows. I
> know I have
>> seen some that do, but haven't examined the brand thoroughly to
> verify my
>> assumption based on thus far limited observations.
>>
>> On Thu, Mar 9, 2017 at 4:38 PM, DJ-Pfulio <DJPfulio at jdpfu.com
> [8]> wrote:
>>
>> May want to check out which cheap phones include "something
> extra"
>> from
>> China.
>> https://www.nytimes.com/2016/11/16/us/politics/china-phones-
> [9]
>> software-security.html
>>
>> Blu was on the list, BTW.
>>
>> On 03/09/2017 04:11 PM, Chuck Payne wrote:
>> > Check out Fry's, they have called BLU that is unlock.
>> >
>> > Here one that hey have on sell if you have promo code
>> >
>> >
> http://frys.com/search?search_type=regular&sqxts=1&cat=&query_string
> [10]
>> =8975833+8975813&site=204premail030517
>> >
>> > On Thu, Mar 9, 2017 at 3:51 PM, William Bagwell
> <rb211 at tds.net [11]
>> > <mailto:rb211 at tds.net [12]>> wrote:
>> >
>> > Nice, but ouch! Almost $200 higher than the g4. Might be a
> bit much
>> > for a first smartphone. Technically my second, but being
>> > grandfathered in an old Cingular plan with no data I never
> used it
>> as
>> > one. Going to get a new number and pass my old phone to my
> wife's
>> > parents. Only a hundred bucks a year if not used much and
> they need
>> > an emergency phone.
>> >
>> > Found the LG g4 at Newegg for $234 which is only slightly
> higher
>> > than fleabay. It works with AT&T so unlocked should work
> with
>> > Cricket. Has an Otterbox available which will be a
> necessity for me.
>> > On my fifth phone in 12 years... Fortunately only one was
> more than
>> > $20. Wife got 10 years on her first cell and only upgraded
> because
>> > they turned off 2G service last year.
>> >
>> > Have not ordered it yet, may pull the trigger tonight
> unless someone
>> > has a better suggestion.
>> >
>> > William
>> >
>> > On Thursday 09 March 2017, James Taylor wrote:
>> >> I would highly recommend the oneplus3t. It's an
> affordable high
>> >> spec phone with vendor and enthusiastic rom developer
> support. I'm
>> >> a big fan of the slimroms distro. It allows you to start
> with as
>> >> close to vanilla android as you want, and provides
> optional access
>> >> to any feature you might want or need. -jt
>> >
>
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