[ale] Lab Workstation Mystery
Todor Fassl
fassl.tod at gmail.com
Mon Mar 28 15:00:58 EDT 2016
This particular problem, if it is a power problem, has to be caused by
something a person could lug into the labs. I've been saying they are
in different buildings but, technically, they are on different wings of
the same building. I tend to think of them as different buildings
because I usually go outdoors to get from one to another. The point is
that they are widely separated.
I haven't tried to find a pattern in the time of day. I only paid enough
attention to the time of the crashes to be certain that there is no
obvious pattern. The crashes occur at different times of day and night.
On 03/28/2016 01:14 PM, Pete Hardie wrote:
> I once tracked a bug that was due to the building elevator motors stopping
> and starting differently after-hours
>
>
> On Mon, Mar 28, 2016 at 1:36 PM, Dustin Strickland <
> dustin.h.strickland at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> The compressors in air conditioning units or refrigerators can also have
>> an effect when they kick on.
>>
>> On Mon, Mar 28, 2016 at 1:30 PM, Jim Kinney <jkinney at jimkinney.us> wrote:
>>
>>> Microwave!!!
>>>
>>> The EM field from those can cause screens to be wacky, wiggly while they
>>> run . I moved my desk from the opposite side of the wall from the home
>>> microwave and still had to get 10' away to stop interference.
>>>
>>> Bit flips happen.
>>>
>>> On March 28, 2016 1:20:45 PM EDT, Todor Fassl <fassl.tod at gmail.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>>
>>>> We've run every kind of hardware diagnostic we can think of. Besides,
>>>> it's just these 14 machines in the 2 shared spaces. Identical machines
>>>> in private offices don't seem to have any problem.H
>>>>
>>>> But, you're right. Ssome kind of power problem is the best theory I've
>>>> seen for a while. The 2 rooms are in different buildings and they never
>>>> had a problem before. But maybe somebody is plugging something in. Come
>>>> to think of it, we had a similar problem years ago when a student put a
>>>> microwave oven in his office. The computers on the other side of the
>>>> wall kept going down. I don't know enough about electricity to explain
>>>> that but the microwave oven and the computer were plugged into outlets
>>>> on opposite sides of the same wall.
>>>>
>>>> What kind of gizmo would a grad student be bringing into a lab that
>>>> would make linux workstations freeze up?
>>>>
>>>> Another reason this theory makes se
>>>> nse is
>>>> that I haven't gotten a single
>>>> complaint about the machines going down. You'd think if they were going
>>>> down while people were using them, I'd get complaints. People are always
>>>> logged in when they go down but that doesn't mean anything since they
>>>> tend to walk away w/o logging out. I've looked for patterns in the list
>>>> of users who were logged in whan a machine went down but didn't see any.
>>>> I can't rule out that it's somebody doing something though. There might
>>>> be a pattern and I just didn't see it. But I am sure there isn't one guy
>>>> who is always logged in whan a machine goes down.
>>>>
>>>> On 03/28/2016 11:05 AM, James Taylor wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> The most common, if not the only, reason I've seen partitions get marked read-only is when I've had power glitches that that caused a very brief interruption in connectivity to
>>>>> the
>>>>> drives.
>>>>> Normally that is not an issue with locally attached drives on workstations, but stranger things have happened.
>>>>> Are the workstations on UPS or is the power to the rooms conditioned properly.
>>>>> -jt
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> James Taylor
>>>>> 678-697-9420
>>>>> james.taylor at eastcobbgroup.com
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Todor Fassl <fassl.tod at gmail.com> 3/28/2016 11:54 AM >>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I have a mysterious problem with workstations in a shared use
>>>>> environment. There are 2 labs in different buildings, onewith 6
>>>>> workstations and one with 8. These workstations ar
>>>>> e used
>>>>> by a group of
>>>>> about 30 grad student TAs. All are running ubuntu 15.10. Authentication
>>>>> is via ldap and home directories are mounted via nfs. Every day, 2 or
>>>>> 3 of the machines go down. The earliest symptom I can find is that the
>>>>> root filesystem is remounted read-only. Soon they stop responding to
>>>>> ssh and snmp and they are essentially locked up. They still respond to
>>>>> pings though.
>>>>>
>>>>> I've caught the machines in the period where the root system is
>>>>> read-only but I can still ssh to them. I've found that I cannot nfs
>>>>> mount home directories on our file server. I can mount nfs shares on
>>>>> other servers. And I can mount the same home directories if I go to
>>>>> another workstation. Restarting nfs on the file server has no effect.
>>>>>
>>>>> When I try to mount a home directory on an effected machine, the mount
>>>>> just hangs. I ran it with strace and it just showed it was waiting --
>>>>> for what, I'm not sure and I
>>>>> don't
>>>>> have a screen cap available at the
>>>>> moment. I put a packet sniffer on the server and it showed it received a
>>>>> single packet from the client and that's it.
>>>>>
>>>>> There is nothing in the logs on the client. In fact, they simply stop at
>>>>> some point in the process. At first I attributed this to the root
>>>>> filesystem being read-only but it continues after I move /var to a
>>>>> separate file system. At some point it just stops writing records to the
>>>>> syslog but I don't know if it's before or after the root filesystem is
>>>>> remounted read-only.
>>>>>
>>>>> Many of the TAs also have identical workstations in their offices. None
>>>>> of those machines seem to have this problem. The TAs do tend to walk
>>>>> away from the workstations w/o logging out. But I wrote a script to kill
>>>>> off their sessions and it didn't help. I had it send me an email
>>>>> whenever it killed somebody's session and it doesn't seem to be
>>>>> correlated with that. In o
>>>>> ther
>>>>> words, sometimes machines go down even if
>>>>> everyone who has used it has remembered to log out.
>>>>>
>>>>> I'm pretty desperate. Any ideas?
>>>>>
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