[ale] Linux Website Builder

[Robert L. Harris]

Yeah, this is for my personal home page only for family back in Georgia.
It'll never be commercial and when it's in full update mode, it gets an
update once every 3-4 months.  I think the last update as of now is about 7
years ago.

On Wed, Jun 8, 2016 at 12:47 PM Steve Litt <slitt at troubleshooters.com>
wrote:

> On Wed, 08 Jun 2016 15:30:31 +0000
> "Robert L. Harris" <robert.l.harris at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> >    Finally looking to update a VERY out of date website.  It
> > currently uses shtml and CSS pages and I would like to find a WYSIWYG
> > tool that'll do complete editing of the site, not one page at a time
> > or a page without formatting etc.
>
> Be careful what you wish for. 1996-2012 I authored Troubleshooters.Com
> with a succession of WYSIWYG editors: Netscape Gold, Netscape
> Communicator, Mozilla whatever, Bluegriffon. Then, when encountering a
> distro lacking in any working WYSIWYG HTML editor, I used Bluefish,
> which, as you mention, is just a text editor with zencoding and
> autocompletion and a few other HTML syntax knowledgeable helpers.
>
> And sometimes I had to edit pages made with the WYSIWYG programs, and
> holy crow what a mess. Tags thrown everywhere. Wrong tags, wrong use of
> tags, long-ago-deprecated tags. I mean really, <a name="whatever">.
> What century was that deprecated in?
>
> And this had consequences. For instance, Google recently boosted
> rankings for sites that are "mobile friendly", and business is
> business, so I had to make my most trafficked pages (and all new
> construction) "Mobile ready". For sites constructed with hand-picked
> HTML in Bluefish, it was pretty easy. For sites made with Mozilla
> compozer and Kompozer and Bluegriffon and all the rest of the WYSIWYG
> nonsense, it was impossible. I had to either not change them, or
> rewrite them from scratch.
>
> Yeah, WYSIWYG helps you get a page created pretty fast. But code in
> haste, repent in leasure.
>
> >
> >    I looked at bluefish but that doesn't seem to load full
> > pages/styles. For instance if I load the index.shtml I get the basic
> > background and nav bar but no text.  If I load the main page
> > ( included by index.shtml ) I get no formatting, style, etc.
>
> Like you said, Bluefish is just a text editor with some HTML smarts and
> helpers.
>
> >    It was originally created with VI but I'd rather try out a
> > comprehensive tool before I go back to that route.
>
> Vim has some zencoding plugins that make your task easier, but I'd
> recommend Bluefish.
>
> By the way, I'm coding my pages to Xhtml 4 strict, which in Bluefish is
> just a matter of a quick and simple wizard. With an Xhtml website,
> which I make sure is well formed XML, I can test with a little XML
> checker I made with Python. No matter how well it renders in the
> average browser, I don't upload it until it passes that XML check.
>
> One more thing: As you get more and more used to using CSS for
> appearance, and using attribute-less tags, makes HTML coding much
> easier and more maintainable.
> >
> > Suggestions?
>
>
> Bluefish is working for me. It's working so well that I just authored
> my last book in Bluefish and used a Python program to convert it to
> pure, validated ePub:
>
> http://troubleshooters.com/twb/
>
> SteveT
>
> Steve Litt
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