[ale] Charlotte

[DJ-Pfulio]

I never felt like the talks at SELF were anything like trying to market
stuff or even services.  Well, except Redhat, which does an extremely
soft-sale. The talks are all from engineers, not marketing people.  More
about How-To, not how-can-we-sell-you.

The Redhat guys seem to live in a redhat centric world and don´t talk
about how to use non-Redhat-based stuff - that´s been my experience.  As
a non-RH guy, I always need a secret decoder ring to understand what
they are talking about.  ¨Atomic?¨  Huh? Lots of RH specific projects
were discussed which had RH dependencies (each with a different secret
name).

IME.

OTOH, I suppose the Canonical talks could be seen the same way, but
since I´m part of that community, the different projects didn´t sound
like secret stuff to me. ;)

If folks are interested, I can setup an email alias to add people from
ALE to for SELF-2016.  Slightly less public than this list.  Someone
else could set that up too - doesn´t matter to me.  Just for people
actually attending SELF from ALE.


On 06/05/2016 01:43 PM, Chris Fowler wrote:
> Anyone going up to Charlotte at the end of the week?
> 
> I'm thinking about it.
> 
> My parents live about 30 miles out so I an planning on staying there
> with the exception of Friday.  Google's pre-party would make it
> difficult for me at 41 to go back to their house and be back by 9am the
> next morning.  Not sure what the "pre-party" is.  I've not found my
> details on the after-hours activities.  I may get a room for Friday night.  
> 
> I'm still going through the BoF/talks schedule to pin down which ones I
> would benefit from the most.
> 
> I'm tend to stay away from talks at trade shows because I feel as is
> sales is the end game: 
> 
> Best practices in VoiP Security.
> 
> Hello, glad you could join us for this talk.  Our panel today of
> speakers telling you about the best practices in VoIP security are from
> "Secureyourvoip.com"
> 
> I'm going to guess that not only are they they experts, but they also
> have the equipment I need to lock it down.  This makes me skeptical
> about anything they pitch.
> 
> I gave a BoF at ALS many years ago for my employer at the time.  I
> agreed to talk about the ideas as long as I refrained about talking
> about who I worked for or what we sold.  I felt like that for a BoF I
> need to not try to evangelize a product.  Talk about an idea or
> technique and then let others talk and think about it. I may have
> mentioned who I worked for once.  I don't think I ever mentioned our
> products.  That was in 2000.   A long time ago. :)
>