[ale] Training in Opensource Backups?

Jeff Hubbs jhubbslist at att.net
Fri Jan 22 00:22:44 EST 2016 

Count me in. I have some tape and SCSI controller hardware I can bring 
to bear.

I'm looking to start using Bacula for the machines I run at work. I have 
a tape library racked and hooked to a machine but I also have a loose 
LTO internal drive, a loose DSS (?) external drive, and I'm pretty sure 
I have SCSI cards for each. Please email me at this address off-list re 
any meeting times.

- Jeff

On 1/21/16 10:37 AM, Jim Kinney wrote:
>
> On January 21, 2016 10:27:41 AM EST, DJ-Pfulio <djpfulio at jdpfu.com> wrote:
>> Think I have an Adaptec 2940 here somewhere gathering dust. ;)  It is
>> probably
>> next to the SSD I needed last month for chromebook recovery and never
>> found.
>>
>> Should I search for the card?
> Yep. I have one but it's in use with my bacula setup and a noisy library.
>>
>> On 01/21/2016 10:04 AM, Jim Kinney wrote:
>>> That could work. Can be done with a beefy laptop with multiple VMs
>> and
>>> using hard drive backups instead of tape.
>>>
>>> I do have some older tape libraries that could be pressed into
>> service.
>>> SCSI cards are scarce in my shop. Trying to obtain an outdated LTO3
>> rig now.
>>> Or could use 2 towers and library for semi hands on setups.
>>>
>>> Late March at the earliest. Will need to filter attendees for at
>> least
>>> junior admin skills. Not a topic for beginners without vim basics and
>>> filesystems and some regex fu. Need to limit to under 10.
>>> On Jan 21, 2016 9:52 AM, "DJ-Pfulio" <djpfulio at jdpfu.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Hey Jim,
>>>>
>>>> Would a Saturday morning 4 hr session be enough for backula
>> training?  I'd
>>>> be
>>>> very interested in something like this, since I've never gotten it
>> working.
>>>> We'd want some minimum committed people before bothering.
>>>>
>>>> I can offer 2+ hr rdiff-backup hands-on training. Just need a place
>> to do
>>>> it
>>>> where folks can either do it on their own local systems or connect
>> to one
>>>> of
>>>> their remote systems and do it there. Really best if 2 systems
>> connected
>>>> by ssh
>>>> already up and working so the rdiff-backup can use a "pull" backup
>>>> technique.
>>>> This is usually more secure than a "push" method.  I can add
>>>> mysql/mariaDB/postgresql backups to this for non-huge DBs too. I'd
>> do this
>>>> if at
>>>> least 5 people with the required prerequisite skills committed - 10
>> is
>>>> probably
>>>> too many for something like this.
>>>>
>>>> The hard part is clearly specifying the prerequisite skills
>> required.
>>>> Tried to
>>>> do a "Setup KVM 101" session at ALE-NW 2 yrs ago and over half the
>>>> attendees
>>>> didn't understand sudo vi or basic networking things (like editing
>> the
>>>> "interfaces" file to add bridge settings - I provided the bridge
>> settings
>>>> needed. Not their fault because I didn't consider those to be
>>>> prerequisites.
>>>> I'd want to do better going forward.
>>>>
>>>> Would need a place to do this. Seems the KSU group might be starting
>> up
>>>> again,
>>>> so we might have a place.
>>>>
>>>> Would training like this be something the group as a whole liked?
>>>>
>>>> -jd
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On 01/21/2016 09:28 AM, Jim Kinney wrote:
>>>>> Bacula is quite amazing. It's the only backup solution I use.
>>>>>
>>>>> It's tedious to setup and the documentation is so detailed it can
>> be
>>>>> overwhelming.
>>>>>
>>>>> Currently I use it with some LTO6 tape libraries. One has a single
>> drive
>>>>> and the other has dual.
>>>>>
>>>>> I have small pool used for worm tapes for off site backup/archive.
>> Manual
>>>>> insertion plus a library scan, incremental backup of specific area
>> to
>>>> worm
>>>>> pool will pull the worm tape. Release when done, export and store
>>>> elsewhere.
>>>>> Take the time to master the bacula bare-iron recovery of itself.
>> Had to
>>>> use
>>>>> it once and it totally saved my bacon. Raid controller freaked and
>> wrote
>>>>> crap to drive array until the system crashed. Replaced controller
>> (and
>>>>> drives) and pulled out the panic disk. Booted it, ran the OS
>> restore from
>>>>> tape, rebooted, ran second restore for other stuff (very busy
>> machine
>>>> with
>>>>> multiple partitions and functions -backups and samba), rebooted,
>> back to
>>>>> other things.
>>>>>
>>>>> The bacula-web gives pretty pictures for PHB consumption.
>>>>>
>>>>> The windows client works well. Not tried some of the other stuff.
>>>>> On Jan 21, 2016 9:10 AM, "Lightner, Jeff"
>> <JLightner at dsservices.com>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>>> Anyone using one of these like Bacula or Amanda that would care to
>>>> comment
>>>>>> on the following?
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>  From what I saw yesterday it appears Bacula supports most of the
>> things
>>>> we
>>>>>> do now with Netbackup such as Windows MSSQL, Hyper-V,  Oracle
>> RMAN,
>>>> UNIX,
>>>>>> Linux and Windows clients.   It also has plugins for Postgres and
>> MySQL
>>>> I
>>>>>> think (NetBackup doesn’t have direct plugins for these like it
>> does RMAN
>>>>>> and MSSQL).
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Can anyone comment on how well any of that works for them?
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> What is overall licensing costing you for the various plugins and
>> for
>>>>>> using shared tape library and deduplication appliances?
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> How you do vaulting (i.e. duplicating images to tape to be sent
>> off
>>>> site)?
>>>>>>     I know about offsite replication for deduplication units but we
>>>> aren’t
>>>>>> doing that so please don’t suggest it.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Anything else you’d like to share on use of OpenSource backup
>> products.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Note:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> We will NOT be doing a setup wherein we just do tar or rsync or
>> some
>>>> other
>>>>>> home brewed solution.   I’m asking about a full enterprise
>> solutions for
>>>>>> hundreds of physical servers and/or virtual guests.
>>>>>>
>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>> Ale mailing list
>>>> Ale at ale.org
>>>> http://mail.ale.org/mailman/listinfo/ale
>>>> See JOBS, ANNOUNCE and SCHOOLS lists at
>>>> http://mail.ale.org/mailman/listinfo
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> _______________________________________________
>>> Ale mailing list
>>> Ale at ale.org
>>> http://mail.ale.org/mailman/listinfo/ale
>>> See JOBS, ANNOUNCE and SCHOOLS lists at
>>> http://mail.ale.org/mailman/listinfo
>>>
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> Ale mailing list
>> Ale at ale.org
>> http://mail.ale.org/mailman/listinfo/ale
>> See JOBS, ANNOUNCE and SCHOOLS lists at
>> http://mail.ale.org/mailman/listinfo

More information about the Ale mailing list