[ale] Training in Opensource Backups?

[Jim Kinney]

That could work. Can be done with a beefy laptop with multiple VMs and
using hard drive backups instead of tape.

I do have some older tape libraries that could be pressed into service.
SCSI cards are scarce in my shop. Trying to obtain an outdated LTO3 rig now.

Or could use 2 towers and library for semi hands on setups.

Late March at the earliest. Will need to filter attendees for at least
junior admin skills. Not a topic for beginners without vim basics and
filesystems and some regex fu. Need to limit to under 10.
On Jan 21, 2016 9:52 AM, "DJ-Pfulio" <djpfulio at jdpfu.com> wrote:

> Hey Jim,
>
> Would a Saturday morning 4 hr session be enough for backula training?  I'd
> be
> very interested in something like this, since I've never gotten it working.
> We'd want some minimum committed people before bothering.
>
> I can offer 2+ hr rdiff-backup hands-on training. Just need a place to do
> it
> where folks can either do it on their own local systems or connect to one
> of
> their remote systems and do it there. Really best if 2 systems connected
> by ssh
> already up and working so the rdiff-backup can use a "pull" backup
> technique.
> This is usually more secure than a "push" method.  I can add
> mysql/mariaDB/postgresql backups to this for non-huge DBs too. I'd do this
> if at
> least 5 people with the required prerequisite skills committed - 10 is
> probably
> too many for something like this.
>
> The hard part is clearly specifying the prerequisite skills required.
> Tried to
> do a "Setup KVM 101" session at ALE-NW 2 yrs ago and over half the
> attendees
> didn't understand sudo vi or basic networking things (like editing the
> "interfaces" file to add bridge settings - I provided the bridge settings
> needed. Not their fault because I didn't consider those to be
> prerequisites.
> I'd want to do better going forward.
>
> Would need a place to do this. Seems the KSU group might be starting up
> again,
> so we might have a place.
>
> Would training like this be something the group as a whole liked?
>
> -jd
>
>
>
> On 01/21/2016 09:28 AM, Jim Kinney wrote:
> > Bacula is quite amazing. It's the only backup solution I use.
> >
> > It's tedious to setup and the documentation is so detailed it can be
> > overwhelming.
> >
> > Currently I use it with some LTO6 tape libraries. One has a single drive
> > and the other has dual.
> >
> > I have small pool used for worm tapes for off site backup/archive. Manual
> > insertion plus a library scan, incremental backup of specific area to
> worm
> > pool will pull the worm tape. Release when done, export and store
> elsewhere.
> >
> > Take the time to master the bacula bare-iron recovery of itself. Had to
> use
> > it once and it totally saved my bacon. Raid controller freaked and wrote
> > crap to drive array until the system crashed. Replaced controller (and
> > drives) and pulled out the panic disk. Booted it, ran the OS restore from
> > tape, rebooted, ran second restore for other stuff (very busy machine
> with
> > multiple partitions and functions -backups and samba), rebooted, back to
> > other things.
> >
> > The bacula-web gives pretty pictures for PHB consumption.
> >
> > The windows client works well. Not tried some of the other stuff.
> > On Jan 21, 2016 9:10 AM, "Lightner, Jeff" <JLightner at dsservices.com>
> wrote:
> >
> >> Anyone using one of these like Bacula or Amanda that would care to
> comment
> >> on the following?
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> From what I saw yesterday it appears Bacula supports most of the things
> we
> >> do now with Netbackup such as Windows MSSQL, Hyper-V,  Oracle RMAN,
> UNIX,
> >> Linux and Windows clients.   It also has plugins for Postgres and MySQL
> I
> >> think (NetBackup doesn’t have direct plugins for these like it does RMAN
> >> and MSSQL).
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> Can anyone comment on how well any of that works for them?
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> What is overall licensing costing you for the various plugins and for
> >> using shared tape library and deduplication appliances?
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> How you do vaulting (i.e. duplicating images to tape to be sent off
> site)?
> >>    I know about offsite replication for deduplication units but we
> aren’t
> >> doing that so please don’t suggest it.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> Anything else you’d like to share on use of OpenSource backup products.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> Note:
> >>
> >> We will NOT be doing a setup wherein we just do tar or rsync or some
> other
> >> home brewed solution.   I’m asking about a full enterprise solutions for
> >> hundreds of physical servers and/or virtual guests.
> >>
>
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