[ale] OT: it is only me or ... ?

Fri Jan 15 11:37:56 EST 2016

Transparency would certainly help to insure all employees are treated the same.  However, my experience has been that any time management determines one person or group is getting something others aren't their response is usually to take it away from whoever is getting it rather than giving it to those who aren't.   Lowest common denominator has already infected our schools - I'm not sure I want it affecting our jobs.

Objective measurements such as what degree or certifications you have or length of service at your current company might be worthwhile as indicators but subjective views of attitudes and intelligence are harder to quantify.   Since I've done most of my career without a Bachelor's degree I'd lose in purely objective measurements (unless they started taking IQs as an objective measurement but that would meet with tons of resistance from those who hate "The Bell Curve").   Back when I did accounting work one of the worst auditors I ever met had a Masters in accounting.  We all know people that are "certified" for various things that couldn't think their way out of a paper bag.   Even worse are the people you run across who are clearly intelligent but have negative attitudes that reduce their effectiveness or those who are just plain too lazy to do anything.     I've always preferred working with idiots who try than geniuses that don't.  

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From: ale-bounces at ale.org [mailto:ale-bounces at ale.org] On Behalf Of Dylan Northrup
Sent: Friday, January 15, 2016 11:15 AM
To: Jim Kinney; Atlanta Linux Enthusiasts
Subject: Re: [ale] OT: it is only me or ... ?

I'm a fan of workplace transparency.  I've seen many times where keeping information segregated has led to incredibly poor results and many fewer times where it's led to better results.  Make information available and, borrowing one of the brilliant ideas from the US Military, empower leadership by providing direction and motivation while not restricting methodology (at least ideally).  Let people closer to the action know the overall strategy and let them be flexible in the tactics they use to achieve the overall goals.

Making pay transparent tends to lead toward everyone being raised up to the same level as well as providing clear examples for people to emulate if they want to move ahead from a pay perspective ("Oh, Alice is making $100k a year and has a CCIE. If I get a CCIE, I should be able to get a bump in pay as well.").  Making pay opaque tends to reward better negotiators over talent, experience, etc.

Just my two cents.

On Thu, Jan 14, 2016 at 8:04 AM, Jim Kinney <jim.kinney at gmail.com> wrote:
> I'm sure that will make for fun stuff for statistics later.
>
> I like the idea that all companies who do business with public money 
> have to publish financials and pay ranges per job title and the number 
> of people with that title.
>
> Of course I still want free beer on Tuesdays, too. :-)
>
> On Jan 14, 2016 7:56 AM, "Boris Borisov" <bugyatl at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> Another example even little funny for me :
>>
>> Slashdot
>>
>> "More employers, from Whole Foods Market, with 91,000 employees, to 
>> smaller companies such as SumAll and Squaremouth, are opening up 
>> companywide salary information to all employees. They generally don't 
>> disclose it to the public—but one company, Buffer, posts all 
>> employees' salaries on its website. The idea of open pay is to get 
>> pay and performance problems out on the table for discussion, 
>> eliminate salary inequities and spark better performance. But open 
>> pay also is sparking some awkward conversations between co-workers 
>> comparing their paychecks, and puncturing egos among those whose salaries don't sync with their self-image."
>>
>> On Thu, Jan 7, 2016 at 12:00 PM, DjPfulio <DjPfulio at jdpfu.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> Noon. Finally. Beer-o-clock.
>>>
>>>
>>> On 7 January 2016 09:51:30 GMT-05:00, Jim Kinney 
>>> <jim.kinney at gmail.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Jan 7, 2016 9:48 AM, "Boris Borisov" <bugyatl at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> >
>>>> > You won't me to open you a beer or open beer :)
>>>>
>>>> Yes. Exactly that. :-)
>>>>
>>>> >
>>>> > On Jan 6, 2016 9:01 PM, "Jim Lynch" 
>>>> > <ale_nospam at fayettedigital.com>
>>>> > wrote:
>>>> >>
>>>> >> I'd settle for an open beer.
>>>> >>
>>>> >> On 01/06/2016 01:16 PM, Scott Castaline wrote:
>>>> >>>
>>>> >>> I'd rather have an open-hardware beer recipe! :)
>>>> >>
>>>> >>
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