[ale] LTS doesn't always mean LTS

[Steve Litt]

I see what you mean, Jerald, although I hadn't thought of such
anti-Ubuntu-user statements as being insulting before. I'll try not to
denigrate Ubuntu users from now on.

In fact, when I need to format up a quick computer that *just works*
with *little thought or effort*, I put Lubuntu on it. For instance, my
Void Linux desktop can't compile my LyX-authored books,  because Void's
TeX system is hopelessly broken. No problem, I fired up a Lubuntu
14.04LTS VM with working LyX and TeX, made a script to sshfs mount my
Void desktop's data tree, and compile my books in the VM. You *just
know* LyX and TeX will work on Ubuntu.

SteveT

Steve Litt 
April 2016 featured book: Rapid Learning for the 21st Century
http://www.troubleshooters.com/rl21



On Mon, 25 Apr 2016 12:42:13 -0400
Jerald Sheets <questy at gmail.com> wrote:

> Except the little statement “people with a clue”… implying anyone
> using the product must NOT have a clue.  It is indeed insulting.
> 
> 
> > On Apr 25, 2016, at 12:26 PM, James Sumners
> > <james.sumners at gmail.com> wrote:
> > 
> > I wasn't. Except to the distro.
> > 
> > On Monday, April 25, 2016, Todor Fassl <fassl.tod at gmail.com
> > <mailto:fassl.tod at gmail.com>> wrote: No need to be insulting, guy.
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > On 04/25/2016 08:21 AM, James Sumners wrote:
> > Why Ubuntu is used by people with a clue is beyond me. Well, except
> > to throw it at a family member who doesn't have one. But this even
> > makes that seem like a silly notion. There are better distributions
> > out there. Some even forked from Ubuntu.
> > 
> > On Mon, Apr 25, 2016 at 9:02 AM, DJ-Pfulio <djpfulio at jdpfu.com <>>
> > wrote: In Ubuntu LTS, there's an issue with many packages not
> > receiving security updates.
> > 
> > https://www.wilderssecurity.com/threads/ubuntu-lts-many-vulnerabilities-despite-long-term-support.385386/
> > <https://www.wilderssecurity.com/threads/ubuntu-lts-many-vulnerabilities-despite-long-term-support.385386/>
> > ==== $ ubuntu-support-status --show-unsupported
> > Support status summary of 'lubuntu':
> > 
> > You have 196 packages (8.0%) supported until February 2015 (9m)
> > You have 12 packages (0.5%) supported until January 2017 (9m)
> > You have 1679 packages (68.8%) supported until May 2019 (5y)
> > You have 148 packages (6.1%) supported until May 2017 (3y)
> > 
> > You have 101 packages (4.1%) that can not/no-longer be downloaded
> > You have 304 packages (12.5%) that are unsupported
> > 
> > No longer downloadable:
> >    <insert huge-ass-list> .......
> > 
> > Unsupported:
> >   <insert even-huger-huge-ass-list> .......
> > ====
> > Saw this and freaked out a little! 196 packages have lost support
> > already on a 14.04 desktop.  Most are java and perl helpers. The
> > perl stuff doesn't bother me, since I use perl-brew for all my real
> > work in perl (never depend on the system perl stuff). But there are
> > some ssh2, TLS, and qemu in that list too!
> > 
> >      Supported until February 2015 (9m):
> >      chromium-browser chromium-browser-l10n expect .... qemu-common
> > libsqlite3-dev libssh2-1 libssh2-1-dev libssl-dev libgnutls-dev
> > libgnutls28 libgnutlsxx27
> > 
> > A non-supported browser is a non-starter for me. This is on my
> > primary desktop! Must do something about that, even if it means
> > removal of the browser.
> > 
> > to see which installed pkgs have and do not have support on your
> > boxes. It basically comes down to which repository the packages are
> > in.  Just something more to be aware about.
> > 
> > Someone did the same thing for Debian and claimed that all the
> > package security fixes were back ported to the "supported" releases.
> > 
> > Lucy (Canonical), you got some 'splaning to do.
> > 
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