[ale] [Fwd: Advertising on ale.org] - OT MS vs Apple vs Linux/UNIX

Solomon Peachy pizza at shaftnet.org
Sat Sep 12 15:51:43 EDT 2015


> Find me one "alternative", except for Upstart, that does anything more
> than act as PID1 and run a process manager. The criteria that makes
> systemd supposedly so awful is that it subsumes huge portions of the
> operating system (udev, su, initramfs, and who knows what else).

0) So, you're saying that there's nothing that can act as an 
   "alternative" to systemd -- implying that it genuinely does more, but 
   that's actually a bad thing.
1) udev is independent.  Use of it does not require use of systemd, and 
   if you can show the udev developers otherwise, they will treat it as 
   a bug report and correct it.
2) systemd does not replace interactive use of 'su', although 
   executing daemons as different users does necessarily require 
   equivalent functionality.
3) What does systemd have to do with intramfs, other than systemd 
   often being physically present on one?  
4) I'm still waiting for "what", not "what else"

 - Solomon
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Solomon Peachy        		       pizza at shaftnet dot org
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