[ale] Recommendations for my next distro?

[Jim Kinney]

Ovirt is large. Very large. It's design is to directly challenge VMware.
So, yes, very large and designed to be deployed across multiple physical
systems.

My grouse with it is the vast amount of java it's written in. But that's
all only for the web GUI and it's linking to the back end.  The back end is
all libvirt :-)

I've used it to setup some developers with the ability to generate a VM
that's a clone of an existing devel environment with (yuck) Oracle ready to
go for very specific testing needs then drop it in the trash. As I don't
have control of the network, I can only setup test VM s with private lan
networking which I do control. Ovirt uses spice to provide a console, CLI
or X, and the access is over the single, public IP. PluscI can lock down
user access with FreeIPA :-)

Yeah, that is a security issue having that much java web code. But the
entire process is designed to run with full SELinux lock down. That does
much to mitigate the damage from a break in.

Ovirt is NOT for desktop users to run a few VMs with. Virt-manager does
that very well. Ovirt's to run a large collection of VMs that's managed by
multiple admins across multiple servers with large-scale shared storage
(NFS is default but iSCSI from a SAN is preferred).
On Mar 1, 2015 8:39 AM, "DJ-Pfulio" <djpfulio at jdpfu.com> wrote:

> oVirt seems extremely bloated and complex or do I have that wrong?  Plus
> it is
> Redhat-only and uses a website for administration. Running a web server has
> always seemed the opposite of secure to me, but if you plan to work in a
> redhat
> shop, then using this makes 100% sense.
>
> libvirt + virt-manager is lite/easy in comparison. This method works for
> any
> Linux hostOS (major distros) and takes less than 5 min to
> install/configure for
> your skill level. You can run a normal desktop on the same machine with
> virt-manager or remotely access any libvirt hypervisor system securely -
> that is
> built-in and uses ssh (password or key-based).  virt-manager is like the
> virtualbox or VMware player/workstation GUI, so if you've seen those,
> you'll be
> fine.
>
> Both can use KVM, LXC, Xen, and a few others (that won't be named) and can
> run
> any OS you like (almost). Some people have OS/2 v4 running inside a VM, if
> that's your desire. ;)
>
> Or .... if you want web admin, take a look at proxmox. It is very mature
> and
> provides KVM and openvz containers. OTOH, it takes over the physical
> machine
> completely. Don't think you can run a desktop on the host. Lots of places
> have
> been running proxmox servers quietly for years.
>
> On 03/01/2015 08:20 AM, Jim Kinney wrote:
> > Look at Fedora or CentOS and play with Ovirt and FreeIPA. Those two
> > projects have a GUI yet the CLI behind the scenes is massively powerful.
> >
> > Fedora 21 has a server version and CentOS 7 has a desktop version.
> >
> > Then there's the docker minimalist version of each that's all CLI.
> >
> > If you have the hardware for virtualization, load Ovirt as a standalone
> on
> > CentOS 7 and load up a zillion VMs to test/play with. Then you can test
> > every distro!
>
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