[ale] RH Satellite 6 moron's intro?

[James Sumners]

On Thu, Jan 22, 2015 at 9:05 AM, Scott McBrien <smcbrien at gmail.com> wrote:

> Look, a satellite subscription, like RHEL, is for any version.  You could
> install Satellite 5 and have a much smoother install experience, user
> experience, and copious, well written and updated documentation.  In fact,
> Red Hat just released another dot update to satellite 5.  However, you
> chose the new hotness, and with that choice comes all the stuff you're
> complaining about.
>

My in production version _is_ 5.x. And you're right, the license is for any
version of the product. But it's not for infinite instances. There is a
1-year transition license, and it's a helluva lot easier to start such a
thing at the beginning of the year instead of the middle (i.e. I know I
 need to be transitioned by January of next year without having to consult
a calendar).



> Red Hat is not alone in this.  The more people you put your stuff in front
> of, the more flaws are exposed in the product.  That's how the software
> industry functions.  The days of developers locking themselves in a room
> and coming out years later with a super polished product with lovely
> documentation are over.  Release early, release often is a mantra I hear
> all the time, and it means that if you want the bleeding edge, often you're
> the one doing the bleeding.
>

We seem to have a fundamental disagreement on what the expected quality of
_paid for_,  *release ready*, software should be. If I were installing all
of the upstream components to cobble together a "free" version of
Satellite, then I'd expect the issues I'm running into. But when I'm using
the non-free version I expect _very_ different experience. That's what is
being paid for -- Red Hat to  make all the stuff work via their installer
and documentation.


>
> I hate to say it, but if you expect a great experience from a new
> (marketing speak for immature) product, you're going to live a life of
> constant frustration and disappointment.
>

Given what I wrote above, I'm not going to accept this lame shirk of
responsibility.


>
> .1 will be a significant improvement and .2 will look a lot more like your
> expectations.
>

Good. I look forward to it. But that doesn't change the fact that I think
the current "release" version wasn't ready to begin with.


>
> As for docs, I don't know what's going on over there.  Hell, if you look
> at the admin guide for RHEL 7, the flagship product, the section on iscsi
> still talks about configuring tgtd, which doesn't ship with RHEL 7...
>
>
At least we agree on something. Try finding the documentation for
persistent IP address aliasing in the RHEL 7 docs.


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