[ale] Is this BS?

[Lightner, Jeff]

It's also specious because it ignores the fact that the commercial Linux most people use is NOT Ubuntu/Debian but rather RHEL or Suse.    On RHEL at least the default is to have SELinux on and enforcing and it definitely does a lot more security than just simple firewall setups and of course iptables is there for firewall and its default configuration if you start it is to block everything.

It also ignores the fact that many people turn off Windows firewalls because they don't want to be bothered.



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From: ale-bounces at ale.org [mailto:ale-bounces at ale.org] On Behalf Of James Taylor
Sent: Thursday, May 22, 2014 5:35 PM
To: Atlanta Linux Enthusiasts
Subject: Re: [ale] Is this BS?

I don't believe you can make a universal statement about that.
When I install openSUSE, by default, the firewall is on and no externally accessible services are available unless I enable them.
And it is very easy to use in that configuration.
I can't speak for Ubuntu. I don't use it.
-jt


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>>> Collin Pruitt <hellow at binenv.com> 5/22/2014 5:21 PM >>>
He is certainly very right about that. Most distributions that are not specifically designed for server usage come out-of-the-box more configured for usability than security.

On 5/22/2014 5:10 PM, John Heim wrote:
> I am currently talking with someone who claims Windows is more secure
> than linux "out of the box". Is the following comment by him BS? I
> can't find anything on google and I've never heard there is anything
> you have to do after installing debian or ubuntu to make it secure.
>
>> Most distros (Debian and Ubuntu for example, as I've already pointed
> out) come with services running
>> that don't need to be by default and no default block input policy.
> obviously this doesn't make one more
>> secure than another, but a user needs to know to disable those, or
> bind them to loopback or even just
>> protect them with iptables.


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