[ale] End of XP

Fri Mar 21 16:24:55 EDT 2014

The virus can do pretty much whatever it's designed to do that wine
supports - filesystem traversal/read/write, networking, etc. So bad. Very
bad. If you can delete it, so can the virus.

Seriously, buy 1 decent hardware capable virtualization server machine
(anything 64-bit that is newer than the last 5 years will work), toss on
Ovirt, make a VM with the ancient XP as guest running the antiquated stuff.
Provide no network for the VM and access it remotely using spice client on
Linux boxes.

On Fri, Mar 21, 2014 at 4:10 PM, Greg Clifton <gccfof5 at gmail.com> wrote:

> OK, so how much damage can a "WINEy" virus do to the overall system?
> Wouldn't Linux "lock the door" to the virus beyond the the
> resources/partition allocated to run WINE? Or worst case could a Windows
> virus operating under WINE eat your whole hard drive? But the main concern
> is probably more about password harvesting and such than crashing he
> system, that is so 20th century.
>
>
> On Fri, Mar 21, 2014 at 3:37 PM, Jim Kinney <jim.kinney at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Virii are known to run under wine.
>>
>> The VM is the safest way to run things as the network can be managed to
>> block everything.
>> On Mar 21, 2014 3:28 PM, "Greg Clifton" <gccfof5 at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> My thoughts, exactly!
>>>
>>> One more question occurs to me. Is there any vulnerability of WINE or
>>> PlayOnLinux to Windows viri? I'm guessing not, but I'm a hardware guy,
>>> "nuts & bolts, not bits & bytes" so thought it was worth asking about.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Fri, Mar 21, 2014 at 2:42 PM, Jim Kinney <jim.kinney at gmail.com>wrote:
>>>
>>>> Since that program is 11+ years old, it may JustWork under wine.
>>>> On Mar 21, 2014 1:38 PM, "Greg Clifton" <gccfof5 at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Jim, your point is to "make a clean break" so they KNOW they are
>>>>> living in a better world as it were? I can see merit to that approach,
>>>>> especially when trying to create "Linux Evangilists," but sometimes it is
>>>>> "hard to teach old dogs new tricks."
>>>>>
>>>>> Regarding the accounting software, I wasn't looking to convert, but
>>>>> hopefully run the windows based program we have [in WINE] under Linux.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Fri, Mar 21, 2014 at 1:07 PM, Jim Kinney <jim.kinney at gmail.com>wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I have a unique view on transitioning people to Linux from <other>.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Don't provide a desktop that looks similar. Provide a clean, well
>>>>>> functioning desktop that is Linux. Don't try and make them thing they are
>>>>>> using "old tried and true but seriously broken". Make sure they are fully
>>>>>> aware they using the new hotness.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Accounting software transition will be ugly. None use a format that
>>>>>> can be imported into another. Best bet is to use a windows server with
>>>>>> terminal server licensing and use Remmina remote desktop for access.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Fri, Mar 21, 2014 at 12:29 PM, Greg Clifton <gccfof5 at gmail.com>wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> OK, so M$ puts a steak in the heart of XP next month.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Unfortunately, my office and most of our customers are still running
>>>>>>> Win XP, through Win 7 downgrade option.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> So, I am looking at options. I saw an article on Zorin OS the other
>>>>>>> day as a look alike and pretty much work alike replacement for XP with Wine
>>>>>>> and PlayOnLinux built in. Maybe I could use this to "wean" the boss
>>>>>>> off of Windows.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> No need to flame on M$, I just looking for suggestions on a
>>>>>>> safe/easy transition out the Windows world that can run on 5 year old
>>>>>>> hardware. Any other suggestions for a platform move that could still run
>>>>>>> Windows apps (mostly Business Vision accounting software) under Linux,
>>>>>>> hopefully with minimal disruption?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Thanks in advance.
>>>>>>> Greg Clifton
>>>>>>>
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