[ale] NanoPC

Thu Mar 6 12:07:35 EST 2014

Right you are...  I will give my keyboard the proper beating as punishment...
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Allen Beddingfield
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The University of Alabama

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From: ale-bounces at ale.org [ale-bounces at ale.org] on behalf of Chuck Payne [terrorpup at gmail.com]
Sent: Thursday, March 06, 2014 10:38 AM
To: Atlanta Linux Enthusiasts
Subject: Re: [ale] NanoPC

NOTE: The correct way to spell openSUSE is open all lower case, SUSE
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On Thu, Mar 6, 2014 at 11:27 AM, Beddingfield, Allen <allen at ua.edu> wrote:
> I'm constantly arguing with boneheaded web developers who go and do their development on the latest bleeding-edge release of Ubuntu, Fedora, or OpenSUSE on a VM on their workstations, then expect me to upgrade the PHP on our SLES servers to that version on their test VM.
> At this point, I have to point out that we provide test/dev space on an identical server to production for a reason...and then they stomp and rant and rave, and I have to escalate to management and let them tell them "not just no, but hell no" on pulling in unsupported PHP packages or setting them up a special Debuntu VM for their site.
> Bleeding edge releases + web developers = a deadly combination and a huge security problem.
> Allen B.
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> Allen Beddingfield
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> The University of Alabama
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> From: ale-bounces at ale.org [ale-bounces at ale.org] on behalf of dev null zero two [dev.null.02 at gmail.com]
> Sent: Thursday, March 06, 2014 10:15 AM
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> Subject: Re: [ale] NanoPC
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> I constantly argue with my manager about Debian vs CentOS (RHEL) for servers :-\
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> also OS X is a pretty great OS for desktop/laptop usage.
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> On Thu, Mar 6, 2014 at 11:10 AM, Jim Kinney <jim.kinney at gmail.com<mailto:jim.kinney at gmail.com>> wrote:
> yep!
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> Fedora has a pretty robust wart removal process. Things like Spacewalk, FreeIPA and ovirt work FAR better than the RHEL versions. Of course the RHEL version is several versions back from the Fedora one so it still has the warts from that release.
>
> Now that the fedup process JustWorks! running a Fedora server got much easier. RHEL will be incorporating a tool like fedup into RHEL7 and possibly backporting it to RHEL6.  YAY!
>
> Of course a general purpose OS that is truly wart-free is such a fantasy that it's laughable. With all the warts in Ubuntu and Debian and all the rest, I really feel pity for the poor schleps that spend their days on a windows server system.
>
> I laugh at the "professional" sysadmins who are Apple geeks. They all work retail. BWAHAHAHAHA! "Can I get you a latte while you wait for me to fix your laptop?".
>
> BWAHAHAHAHAHAHA!
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> On Thu, Mar 6, 2014 at 10:41 AM, Lightner, Jeff <JLightner at dsservices.com<mailto:JLightner at dsservices.com>> wrote:
> That's why Fedora exists...
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> Jeffrey C. Lightner
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: ale-bounces at ale.org<mailto:ale-bounces at ale.org> [mailto:ale-bounces at ale.org<mailto:ale-bounces at ale.org>] On Behalf Of leam hall
> Sent: Thursday, March 06, 2014 10:07 AM
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> Subject: Re: [ale] NanoPC
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> I wish Red Hat put some effort into removing the warts, though.
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> On Thu, Mar 6, 2014 at 9:56 AM, Lightner, Jeff <JLightner at dsservices.com<mailto:JLightner at dsservices.com>> wrote:
>> +3
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>> From: ale-bounces at ale.org<mailto:ale-bounces at ale.org> [mailto:ale-bounces at ale.org<mailto:ale-bounces at ale.org>] On Behalf Of
>> Jim Kinney
>> Sent: Wednesday, March 05, 2014 6:44 PM
>> To: Atlanta Linux Enthusiasts
>> Subject: Re: [ale] NanoPC
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>>
>>
>> general orneriness and curmudgeonly character :-)
>>
>> Some of us "professionals" view certain distros as "hobby market only".
>> Ubuntu (even LTS) fits that for me. Too much stuff that was fixed over
>> a decade ago in other "professional class distros" is still wonky in Ubuntu.
>>
>> And then there's the funky, not so cool, not really in the spirit of
>> GNU/Linux/OpenSource shenanigans like the data pump to upstream
>> sources of search data, the "let's just fork everything and do our way
>> so we don't have to play well with others" mentality and some other
>> stuff that has rubbed me personally the wrong way over time with Ubuntu leadership.
>>
>> So, yeah. I'm a distro curmudgeon. I've got 15+ years experience with
>> "The RedHat Way" and while it's got it's share of warts, there's a
>> core bunch of stuff that just always works on an install and they keep
>> spending money buying closed source stuff and open sourcing it,
>> pushing it to Fedora upstream and funding rewrites to get rid of the
>> last bits of code that can't be open sourced due to license issues. If
>> Debian had any money, they would do that as well, I suspect.
>>
>> No real flame intended from me. Just poking a bit of fun.
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>> On Wed, Mar 5, 2014 at 5:54 PM, Edward Holcroft <eholcroft at mkainc.com<mailto:eholcroft at mkainc.com>>
>> wrote:
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>> On what basis do you deem it not Linux?
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>> On Mar 5, 2014 5:45 PM, "James Taylor"
>> <James.Taylor at eastcobbgroup.com<mailto:James.Taylor at eastcobbgroup.com>>
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>> I've never considered Ubuntu to be linux....
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>>>>> Scott Castaline <skotchman at gmail.com<mailto:skotchman at gmail.com>> 3/5/2014 4:14 PM >>>
>> It supports Android/Ubuntu/Linux ???? I thought Ubuntu was Linux????
>> Did I miss something in the news about Ubuntu?????
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>> On Wed, Mar 5, 2014 at 7:36 AM, Boris Borisov <bugyatl at gmail.com<mailto:bugyatl at gmail.com>> wrote:
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>>> http://nanopc.org/NanoPC-T1_Feature.html
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