[ale] Anyone using Docker?

Michael H. Warfield mhw at WittsEnd.com
Thu Jun 12 13:46:43 EDT 2014


On Thu, 2014-06-12 at 13:23 -0400, JD wrote:
> I think the goal is 100% cross-platform, run anywhere, containers. If you have a
> docker "container" - deploying it to any platform (OS) supported with Docker
> libraries should be trivial.

> Sounds like LXC, but cross-platform and standardized.

Point of order...  Docker can (and use to by default) use LXC as its
backend.  Latest versions of Docker use libcontainer but can also use (I
believe) libvirt and several other backends.

The 100% cross-platform is an interesting claim considering that LXC on
Fedora currently has a problem on the PPC platform because Fedora never
released BusyBox for F20 on PPC (open bugzilla ticket).  I would throw
the bullshit trump card on the "100% cross platform" claim unless they
can support PPC, Sparc, ARM, and ARM-RPi.  And you can not migrate
containers cross-platform other than things like running an i686
container on an x86_64 host.

> Marketing:
> "IT can ship faster and run the same app, unchanged, on laptops, data center
> VMs, and any cloud."

> I'd love it if libvirt supported it and virt-manager would allow container creation.

You've got it upside down.  It would support libvirt.  It's a frontend
while libvirt is a backend.  And, I may be wrong on this, I thought it
did support libvirt.

> Regardless - sounds like something worth knowing for normal web-app workloads.
> Definitely worth learning more, especially if you play in the virtualization arena.

> On 06/12/2014 11:49 AM, Scott Plante wrote:
> > 
> > I really only learned about it yesterday, but there's more news today: 
> > http://www.zdnet.com/docker-libcontainer-unifies-linux-container-powers-7000030397/#ftag=RSS510d04f?alertspromo= 
> > ---
> > Docker libcontainer unifies Linux container powers 
> > 
> > At DockerCon in San Francisco, Docker CTO and co-founder Solomon Hykes announced that the company would work as full partners with its former container technology rivals on Docker's key open-source component libcontainer.
> > 
> > What makes this important, even vital, news to the larger world of system administrators, datacenter managers, and cloud architects, is that Google, Red Hat, and Parallels are now helping build the program. Indeed, they will work with Docker as core maintainers of the code. Canonical's Ubuntu container engineers will also be working on it.
> > 
> > In other words, libcontainer is well on its way to becoming the default standard for Linux-based containers. Indeed, if rumors are true that Microsoft is working on bringing Docker-based containers to its Azure cloud.
> > ...
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > 
> > From: "Michael B. Trausch" <mbt at naunetcorp.com> 
> > To: ale at ale.org 
> > Sent: Tuesday, June 10, 2014 2:47:01 PM 
> > Subject: Re: [ale] Anyone using Docker? 
> > 
> > On 06/10/2014 08:05 AM, JD wrote: 
> >> Anyone using Docker to host applications? 
> >>
> >> Pros/Cons, pitfalls? 
> >>
> >> I'd think that areas were a simple network is needed would work great, but if 
> >> complex networking/firewalls are necessary (like a virtual router) would be 
> >> better using other technologies? 
> > 
> > I've toyed with it... I haven't had the time to spend with it yet to get 
> > to really know it. In concept, it's really appealing. 
> > 
> > — Mike 
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