[ale] OT: FCC and ISP

Charles Shapiro hooterpincher at gmail.com
Thu Jan 23 09:14:53 EST 2014


Hmm. This is an interesting economic problemo.  Georgia Power and ATL Gas
Light are not exactly fonts of rectitude in the public interest.  I agree
that the current ISP oligopoly in most of the country is sinful and bad.
I'd much rather see ruthless competition on price and service, but it's a
little difficult to figure how to do that when one company owns much of the
infrastructure.

-- CHS



On Tue, Jan 21, 2014 at 2:53 PM, Jay Lozier <jslozier at gmail.com> wrote:

>
> On 01/21/2014 01:35 PM, Aaron Ruscetta wrote:
>
>> All of these endless issues of corporate abuses and monopoly
>> corruption throughout the ISP and media companies just scream
>> in validation of the vital need for Internet Distribution to be a
>> commonwealth public resource.  The paths of information flow
>> has become as vital to our public infrastructure as our public
>> water lines and public roadways, so it needs to be fully
>> recognized as such.
>>
>> in peace
>> aaron
>>
> I have to agree with you, Aaron, that the Internet is more of utility and
> must treated as such.
>
>
>>
>> On Mon, Jan 20, 2014 at 10:17 AM, Jonathan Meek
>> <jonathan.l.meek at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Here's a great article that the register had on their website about the
>>> Verizon vs. FCC case:
>>>
>>> http://www.theregister.co.uk/2014/01/18/why_almost_everyone_got_the_net_
>>> neutrality_verdict_wrong/
>>>
>>> If I understood the article correctly, the courts ruled that while FCC
>>> has
>>> the power to enforce the net neutrality rules, it cannot just write them
>>> and
>>> placed them under the classic "common provider" rules that are used for
>>> voice service since Congress has passed laws that make voice service
>>> different from data service.
>>>
>>>
>>> On Sun, Jan 19, 2014 at 12:22 PM, JD <jdp at algoloma.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> I ended up with 2 coax lines from the street - a for TV + residential
>>>> ISP
>>>> and b
>>>> for commercial ISP.  A few months later, canceled the residential TV and
>>>> ISP.
>>>> The 'b' cable was new, thicker and took a 100% shorter run to the
>>>> demarcation
>>>> point - better signal.
>>>>
>>>> Comcast was extremely clear that having "commercial TV" over the
>>>> business
>>>> line
>>>> in a residential neighborhood was forbidden by the public utility
>>>> commission.
>>>> Perhaps residential TV could share the same line - don't know. Dumped
>>>> CATV
>>>> for
>>>> antennas a while ago. Getting 65 channels OTA from Cobb county.
>>>>
>>>> Using the term "commicast" seems completely inappropriate. They are
>>>> definitely
>>>> capitalists, not communists or socialists. ;) Their stock price has been
>>>> beating
>>>> the SP500 the last 3 yrs or so. Capitalists, definitely.
>>>>
>>>> On 01/19/2014 09:44 PM, Jim Kinney wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> If you have commercial internet, they'll string the TV  as well.
>>>>>
>>>>> Don't take no for an answer. They can string that anywhere they have
>>>>> cable internet.
>>>>>
>>>>> On Jan 19, 2014 7:29 AM, "JD" <jdp at algoloma.com
>>>>> <mailto:jdp at algoloma.com>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>      A person said that or a crappy automatic system?
>>>>>      Commercial TV is not allowed at residential addresses, but
>>>>> commercial internet
>>>>>      is. The only reason I would guess it isn't available would be if
>>>>> the
>>>>> building is
>>>>>      an apartment and another line cannot be put in. Even then, I'd
>>>>> call
>>>>> and talk to
>>>>>      a real person.
>>>>>
>>>>>      On 01/18/2014 11:33 PM, Raylynn Knight wrote:
>>>>>      > Except commiecast says commercial service is not available at my
>>>>> address!
>>>>>
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