[ale] OT: FCC and ISP

[Lightner, Jeff]

There's no real market pressure when you only have 2 actual wire choices.

More than once Coca Cola and Pepsi Distributors have been found to be in collusion in various markets to freeze out smaller competitors like Royal Crown.

The reason  cell phone pressure exists to the extent that it does is because when Congress authorized cell licenses they put 6 in every market.   The reason cell phone pressure does NOT make cell phone service as dirt cheap as it ought to be is that Congress didn't require people that buy licenses to actually provide cell phone service.  I used to work for carrier that bought licenses here in Atlanta then stated they had no intent to actually put service in Atlanta.   It often made me wonder if they'd been paid by the big player here to help prevent real competition.






-----Original Message-----
From: ale-bounces at ale.org [mailto:ale-bounces at ale.org] On Behalf Of Damon L. Chesser
Sent: Thursday, January 16, 2014 12:12 PM
To: ale at ale.org
Subject: Re: [ale] OT: FCC and ISP

Not in line as it is not directly responding, but:

I thought the Freedom Foundation and such were opposed to net neutrality?  But it seems that you are saying it is a good thing? I would think that market pressures would come to bare as they have in cell phone rates:  ie, who carries a contract when you can get unlimited for $45 and you just bring a phone?  Seems like ISPs would/could do the same thing.  go with an expensive network provider or go with Fred's cut rate one size fits all.  Just curious and checking out my understanding of the situation.



On 01/16/2014 10:37 AM, Jim Kinney wrote:
> As it will certainly impact Linux networking, I would put this as
> certainly on topic.
>
> And very very disturbing.
>
> So FredsCo pays to get his bits onto the network, and Mary pays to see
> bits from the network. Now, the bit carriers can charge FredsCo to
> have his bits actually make it to Mary. Next change will be charging
> Mary extra for getting bits from FredsCo. I'm picturing the
> miscellaneous fees like shipping and handling fees for physical goods.
>
> I was under the impression that the carriers were making pretty good
> money. This really stinks like a way to squash out Comcast competitor
> Netflix.
>
>
> On Thu, Jan 16, 2014 at 9:26 AM, Boris Borisov <bugyatl at gmail.com
> <mailto:bugyatl at gmail.com>> wrote:
>
>     This is a little bit related with my previous post for Comcast
>     latency/jitter problem. I know is against ale group rules but I
>     feel it is important.
>
>
> http://www.theverge.com/2014/1/14/5307650/federal-court-strikes-down-n
> et-neutrality-rules
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