[ale] OT: Linux+ Course requires Silverlight

Jim Kinney jim.kinney at gmail.com
Thu Dec 18 07:55:10 EST 2014


On Dec 18, 2014 12:33 AM, "Joe Rossi" <josepharossi at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Sorry not sure my other reply went through (spam filters) but this is a
Western Governors University course.  It's prep for the Linux+
certification.  I don't remember if I used a Windows VM to study (I have
over 10+ years of Linux experience) for this class but whatever the pain is
to complete it, do it!  You're not going to be able to use Linux for every
single thing in your professional career

Ha! I've made a career out of showing that to be not true. :-)  If it says
"Windows required" I use Linux anyway. I've coded windbloze remote
management solutions in Linux using bash and a determined "I don't use
windows" attitude. I've yet to find a windows only situation that could not
be bested by some cleverness and Linux determination. The outcome was not
as task efficient as the windows solution but once the entire Linux
environment was compared with the entire windows environment, the Linux
setup ALWAYS came out ahead. What always worked poorly was people and their
bad habits. If people would spend half the effort they burned learning how
to be barely functional in windows with all its faults learning instead how
to be functional in Linux, they would be highly, highly competent and
nearing master level skills. People tend to sink to the level of their
expected performance. Give them crappy tools to get the job done with and
they will deliver a crappy performance. Do it long enough and they get
brainwashed into believing their work is good quality. Toss in an unhealthy
layer of vision less, "don't rock the boat" management ineptitude and you
get the vast mess of "windows required" crap.

I'm glad I know how to install Linux tools. Another ALEr said many years
ago, "I want to be able to install Linux on a glass of water.". My thinking
exactly!  :-}

and the LPI sponsored Linux+ certification was one of the more thorough
exams I've taken.  I even want to the 2nd level just for kicks.
>
> I'm about 75% done with my BS-InfoSec from WGU.  I have very little
complaints with their infrastructure keeping in mind most that are taking
degree programs aren't headed towards a Linux-centric career so they have
to cater to the majority.  I've studied for every other course using my
Arch Linux laptop with little problems.  You'll have to use WGU's web cam
to take the proctored exams using Windows only but it's a minor
inconvenience, especially for the price of the education they provide - all
certs included in the program, testing materials from Cisco, Transcender,
CompTIA, etc.
>
> Good luck on your degree.
>
> On Wed, Dec 17, 2014 at 9:31 AM, Charles Shapiro <hooterpincher at gmail.com>
wrote:
>>
>> Shrug. I doubt it was a decision. They're probably wed to their
infrastructure and simply can't offer any course without Silverlight.
>>
>> -- CHS
>>
>>
>> On Wed, Dec 17, 2014 at 9:07 AM, Boris Borisov <bugyatl at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> Not too wise decision from a "Governors" University ...
>>>
>>> On Wed, Dec 17, 2014 at 8:29 AM, JD <jdp at algoloma.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Complaining to us doesn't help too much unless someone on this list
works in a
>>>> powerful position at that school.  Politely complain to the vendor AND
to the
>>>> University chancellor, in writing. If possible, get others in the
class to
>>>> complain as well.
>>>>
>>>> Does anyone else have experiences where they've gotten Linux to be
supported? How?
>>>>
>>>> On 12/17/2014 05:53 AM, Kerry Thompson wrote:
>>>> > It's Western Governors University. The course is through Labsim.
>>>> > I was aware that there were limited alternatives like pipelight, but
I couldn't
>>>> > get anything to work in a relatively short amount of time. And as a
newb, I just
>>>> > decided to bite the bullet and do it through Windows.  I just wanted
a more
>>>> > comprehensive Linux experience
>>>> >
>>>> > Sent from my iPhone
>>>> >
>>>> > On Dec 17, 2014, at 2:38 AM, Paul Storey <paul0123 at comcast.net
>>>> > <mailto:paul0123 at comcast.net>> wrote:
>>>> >
>>>> >> Which university is this?
>>>> >>
>>>> >> Paul
>>>> >>
>>>> >> On 12/16/2014 11:45 AM, K Thompson wrote:
>>>> >>> So, after talking to JD and getting convinced that it would be
okay to
>>>> >>> complain about this using this forum, I finally decided to speak
up about it.
>>>> >>>
>>>> >>> My university has a Linux+ course that I am in that requires
Silverlight to
>>>> >>> run so that a newb like me would not be able to run the course
outside of
>>>> >>> Windows. It is so frustrating that I cannot get a true Linux user
experience
>>>> >>> of immersion into the OS through this course.  I was really
looking forward
>>>> >>> to ditching Windows for a little bit.  Ugh!  Just Ugh!  I know I
could have
>>>> >>> probably done it using something else, but then I'd still feel
like that I
>>>> >>> was subject to Microsoft in some way.
>>>> >>>
>>>> >>> Anyways...I apologize for my rant, but I just wanted to put this
out there
>>>> >>> and see if I was the only one that thought this was outrageous!
>>>> >>>
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